Critical Mass Bicyclist Assaulted by NYPD (VIDEO)
07-28-08, 05:44 PM
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Critical Mass riders consciously break the law to make a point. In doing so, they must be willing to accept the consequences and the consequences for doing so are traffic citations. The police officer was out of line. He assaulted and individual when he could have just cited him. He clearly acted outside the law and now he is the one who deserves prosecution to the full extent of the law.
07-28-08, 05:45 PM
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Hard to figure out what the cop was doing as he made his way across the road besides being a dick. What were the 2 cops doing in the middle of the street anyway?
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07-28-08, 05:49 PM
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07-28-08, 05:52 PM
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If that's totalitarianism to you, then count yourself among the lucky ones who have never actually experienced it.
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Unquestioning obedience to the police is a feature of totalitarian culture. Is was Immanuel Kant who argued that for a government it is better to have a policeman in everyone's head than on every street corner. The archetype of this mentality is the "if the cops beat you then you must have deserved it." Be careful about how you define totalitarianism. Many in the west assume that if it doesn't involve machetes or gas-chambers it's not genocide or totalitarianism; but remember it was Arendt who pointed out that evil most often appears as banal and ordinary.
07-28-08, 06:18 PM
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I heard about this story on the news. What we didn't see in the vid, is before that rider got into the picture, he almost hit someone with his bike (on purpose to scare them), then kicked a woman trying to cross the street, yelling at her (with profanity) to get out of the way, because he felt he was more important. Tons of witnesses saw it happen (and made statements to the fact). The officer was not given any punishment, as he used his pushing (which he is trained to do) to knock the gutter rat off the bike, and abruptly had him arrested. Did he beat the biker once on the ground? No. He only pushed him off the bike after kicking somone. Then, the cyclist was arrested for assault to an innocent civilian.
Sorry guys, I have no love for CM'ers. They are always filled with losers who are only out to cause trouble, and violate the rights of everyone elses free travel. CM should be flat out banned. It's not a protest. It's a mob. It serves no purpose.
Sorry guys, I have no love for CM'ers. They are always filled with losers who are only out to cause trouble, and violate the rights of everyone elses free travel. CM should be flat out banned. It's not a protest. It's a mob. It serves no purpose.
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07-28-08, 06:20 PM
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I heard about this story on the news. What we didn't see in the vid, is before that rider got into the picture, he almost hit someone with his bike (on purpose to scare them), then kicked a woman trying to cross the street, yelling at her (with profanity) to get out of the way, because he felt he was more important. Tons of witnesses saw it happen (and made statements to the fact). The officer was not given any punishment, as he used his pushing (which he is trained to do) to knock the gutter rat off the bike, and abruptly had him arrested. Did he beat the biker once on the ground? No. He only knocked him off the bike after kicking somone. Then, the cyclist was arrested for assault to an innocent civilian.
Sorry guys, I have no love for CM'ers. They are always filled with losers who are only out to cause trouble, and violate the rights of everyone elses free travel. CM should be flat out banned. It's not a protest. It's a mob. It serves no purpose.
Sorry guys, I have no love for CM'ers. They are always filled with losers who are only out to cause trouble, and violate the rights of everyone elses free travel. CM should be flat out banned. It's not a protest. It's a mob. It serves no purpose.
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07-28-08, 06:22 PM
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I heard about this story on the news. What we didn't see in the vid, is before that rider got into the picture, he almost hit someone with his bike (on purpose to scare them), then kicked a woman trying to cross the street, yelling at her (with profanity) to get out of the way, because he felt he was more important. Tons of witnesses saw it happen (and made statements to the fact). The officer was not given any punishment, as he used his pushing (which he is trained to do) to knock the gutter rat off the bike, and abruptly had him arrested. Did he beat the biker once on the ground? No. He only pushed him off the bike after kicking somone. Then, the cyclist was arrested for assault to an innocent civilian.
07-28-08, 06:28 PM
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Good enough for you?
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07-28-08, 06:53 PM
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Good doc, you owe noone an explanation.
Cheers to you.
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07-28-08, 07:15 PM
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Harsh. I haven't been to CM since last summer. I remember that a fair amount of the time onlookers had no idea what the hell was going on. The point is lost on both sides - maybe there should be a ride to raise awareness about CM.
07-28-08, 07:19 PM
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Critical Mass riders consciously break the law to make a point. In doing so, they must be willing to accept the consequences and the consequences for doing so are traffic citations. The police officer was out of line. He assaulted and individual when he could have just cited him. He clearly acted outside the law and now he is the one who deserves prosecution to the full extent of the law.
07-28-08, 07:22 PM
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I heard about this story on the news. What we didn't see in the vid, is before that rider got into the picture, he almost hit someone with his bike (on purpose to scare them), then kicked a woman trying to cross the street, yelling at her (with profanity) to get out of the way, because he felt he was more important. Tons of witnesses saw it happen (and made statements to the fact). The officer was not given any punishment, as he used his pushing (which he is trained to do) to knock the gutter rat off the bike, and abruptly had him arrested. Did he beat the biker once on the ground? No. He only pushed him off the bike after kicking somone. Then, the cyclist was arrested for assault to an innocent civilian.
Sorry guys, I have no love for CM'ers. They are always filled with losers who are only out to cause trouble, and violate the rights of everyone elses free travel. CM should be flat out banned. It's not a protest. It's a mob. It serves no purpose.
Sorry guys, I have no love for CM'ers. They are always filled with losers who are only out to cause trouble, and violate the rights of everyone elses free travel. CM should be flat out banned. It's not a protest. It's a mob. It serves no purpose.
https://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...=1&sq=critical mass&st=cse
https://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/index...id=1&aid=84281
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c...g_cyclist.html
07-28-08, 07:23 PM
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CFMR BABY!!!
07-28-08, 07:27 PM
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Now that's an idea. We could do a "Critical Fred Mass Ride". Everyone would be really well behaved, stopping at all the stop signs and red lights. Everyone could make those "right turn" and "left turn" arm gestures. Everyone in front would have lights, blinkines in the rear.
07-28-08, 07:29 PM
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I've had friends who were cops and I try to always give them their due. All you people who "hate cops this or that" would be screamin' for one if you needed one. And you know what - even if they knew you'd bad mouthed them most would still run head first into a load of **** to help your sorry @ss if you needed it.
Even so - out of context - what the cop did in this case looks like it was out of line. As others have mentioned though there might've been stuff going on off camera that warranted the behaviour. Like I said, critical massers are idiots.
I'd like to do an anti critical mass ride if I could figure out how that'd work...
Even so - out of context - what the cop did in this case looks like it was out of line. As others have mentioned though there might've been stuff going on off camera that warranted the behaviour. Like I said, critical massers are idiots.
I'd like to do an anti critical mass ride if I could figure out how that'd work...
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wow. it's no surprise amateur cyclists in the us are seen as such morons by the rest of the world...
a frustrated officer takes his aggression out on the person closest to him, and the meatheads come out in support.
Gladly, the NYPD investigators weren't so shortsighted, as the officer's badge and gun were stripped.
As the report goes, the cyclist did nothing but ride the same way everyone else was. Unfortunately for him, the officer had obvious behavior issues and decided to act out as he passed.
a frustrated officer takes his aggression out on the person closest to him, and the meatheads come out in support.
Gladly, the NYPD investigators weren't so shortsighted, as the officer's badge and gun were stripped.
As the report goes, the cyclist did nothing but ride the same way everyone else was. Unfortunately for him, the officer had obvious behavior issues and decided to act out as he passed.
You sheep sure have done a good job internalizing totalitarianism. The cyclist was charged with resisting arrest and assaulting the cop. He was NOT charged with anything that explains why the cop assaulted him. Kafka would be proud--this is how far we've come. I repeat: no charges were filed relating to anything that happened before the cop decided to beat the guy down. It raises the obvious question, if the rider's behavior was criminal enough to justify the use of force, why wasn't he charged for the offense the necessitated the use of force?
07-28-08, 07:30 PM
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I dont care if he kicked the pope. Why shouldnt the officer at least verbally or gesture the kid on the bike to stop, then push him if it doesnt look like he will?
If that kid gets a brain injury from being an idiot, not wearing a helmet, and getting knocked down...
By all means arrest the kid. But to put some bodily harm, potentially life changing, when there are other means? Please...
If that kid gets a brain injury from being an idiot, not wearing a helmet, and getting knocked down...
By all means arrest the kid. But to put some bodily harm, potentially life changing, when there are other means? Please...
07-28-08, 07:36 PM
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Throw 'em into the Criminal Justice System and let the bench sort 'em out. If that was me on the bike my lawyer would be queuing up the multi million dollar civil lawsuit already. But I think the CM idiots are essentially morons who deserve what they get, so the part that disturbs me is a Peace Officer acting like some kind of hooligan armed Oakland Raider Free Safety run amok. You don't think that video isn't a smoking gun piece of evidence? Show it to a jury. ANY jury.
Do you really want an amateur like that to have a badge and a gun? That behavior is hardly professional by anyone's standard. I think we'd all be safer if that felony assault is the last act of that idiot cop's career.