A question for the "Steel is real" brigade
07-29-08, 06:22 AM
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A question for the "Steel is real" brigade
What car do you drive?
I'm not talking about people who have steel-framed bikes, but those who passionately believe steel-is-real and is the only way to go.
I'm not talking about people who have steel-framed bikes, but those who passionately believe steel-is-real and is the only way to go.
07-29-08, 06:52 AM
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If this helps with whatever theory you're coming up with, it doesn't have power locks, windows, or automatic transmission and it hasn't had air conditioning since two years ago when the compressor died. I do have power steering though.
07-29-08, 07:07 AM
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I dunno if I fall into one of your camps, but a 2005 6-spd Acura TSX... or my wife's 2003 Vovlo V70 2.4T
I'm probably going to move to another frame material for the next frame.
I'm probably going to move to another frame material for the next frame.
07-29-08, 07:30 AM
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I have a couple decent steel bikes (as well as a nice Carbon bike) and we have an Explorer, a S-2000, and a Mercury.
07-29-08, 07:39 AM
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I have an Aluminum bike, so I was forced to buy a Acura NSX. Glad I didn't go carbon because I would have had to fork out for a Mercedes SLR
07-29-08, 07:46 AM
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I started a post a few days ago "If my bike were a car...". Of course it turned into a laugh session, but the intent was to see if people used similar criteria when buying a bike that they do when dreaming of or buying a car.
Let's face it, a smaller percentage of the driving population has Ferraris than does the road cycling population have, say, Specialized S-Works with Dura Ace. That's because top end bikes are more affordable than top end cars.
Bikes are budget-constrained choices. No matter what people say, not everyone picks a frame material for weight saving alone. I doubt that few people buy steel frames today because they didn't know of other materials. In fact, I'd argue that those who buys a steel frames today are among the most discriminate buyers in the market.
Let's face it, a smaller percentage of the driving population has Ferraris than does the road cycling population have, say, Specialized S-Works with Dura Ace. That's because top end bikes are more affordable than top end cars.
Bikes are budget-constrained choices. No matter what people say, not everyone picks a frame material for weight saving alone. I doubt that few people buy steel frames today because they didn't know of other materials. In fact, I'd argue that those who buys a steel frames today are among the most discriminate buyers in the market.
07-29-08, 07:58 AM
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I started a post a few days ago "If my bike were a car...". Of course it turned into a laugh session, but the intent was to see if people used similar criteria when buying a bike that they do when dreaming of or buying a car.
Let's face it, a smaller percentage of the driving population has Ferraris than does the road cycling population have, say, Specialized S-Works with Dura Ace. That's because top end bikes are more affordable than top end cars.
Bikes are budget-constrained choices. No matter what people say, not everyone picks a frame material for weight saving alone. I doubt that few people buy steel frames today because they didn't know of other materials. In fact, I'd argue that those who buys a steel frames today are among the most discriminate buyers in the market.
Let's face it, a smaller percentage of the driving population has Ferraris than does the road cycling population have, say, Specialized S-Works with Dura Ace. That's because top end bikes are more affordable than top end cars.
Bikes are budget-constrained choices. No matter what people say, not everyone picks a frame material for weight saving alone. I doubt that few people buy steel frames today because they didn't know of other materials. In fact, I'd argue that those who buys a steel frames today are among the most discriminate buyers in the market.
I started with a mediocre AL frame, but it sucked and I switched to a good (not great) steel frame and now I have a better (but still not great) steel frame and the world is a better place. There are lots of good steel frames out there for cheap if you have patience and I will take good steel over mediocre AL any day. I would imagine good steel trumps mediocre carbon as well.
07-29-08, 09:57 AM
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but only because it was given to me.
but since i dont have a dl right now it is in storage
but only because it was given to me.
but since i dont have a dl right now it is in storage
07-29-08, 10:21 AM
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Kuro got a new Pegoretti and it's all steel around 18lbs. Thats plenty for a non-racer, not to mention its a perfect and custom glove fit, also not to mention its a beautiful bike with a great story.
As for me, carbon bike, steel car. (1972 el camino, they just dont build them like they used to).
My bumper is chromed steel. Find a car made after 1990 with a steel bumper. I can actually bump things.
As for me, carbon bike, steel car. (1972 el camino, they just dont build them like they used to).
My bumper is chromed steel. Find a car made after 1990 with a steel bumper. I can actually bump things.
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I have a steel bike and a steel jeep grand Cherokee it has carbon fenders and carbon wheels and axels.
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07-29-08, 01:14 PM
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i love steel, but don't own or drive a car. imagine that.
a roadie with no car?! yup, you heard right.
a roadie with no car?! yup, you heard right.
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07-29-08, 01:22 PM
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i'll play,
i have a great early 80's panasonic steel roadie, and i drive a VW, made of very little steel
i have a great early 80's panasonic steel roadie, and i drive a VW, made of very little steel
07-29-08, 01:27 PM
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I have a ti bike and a steel bike. 
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2008 Acura TL
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07-29-08, 01:32 PM
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I have 3 steel bikes: Surly Pacer (road), Trek 520 (touring), and a fixed gear beater.
Don't have a car, but the subway rails are made of steel.
Don't have a car, but the subway rails are made of steel.
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I have two steel vintage roadies, 1 carbon roadie, and a steel mercedes. Funny thought about that whole "steel is real" mantra. Steel is about as "real" as carbon fiber. Last time I checked, steel is not real or a naturally occuring resource, but fabricated like carbon.
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1st bike - 1962 Schwinn Varsity (bought new and wish I still had it, left it in Siagon, Viet Nam 1965)
1962 Schwinn Varsity (could be a twin of my first bike)
1969 Peugeot PX10E
1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer (bought new)
1982 Peugeot PH19 Mixte
1989 Novara Aspen