crowtee

what do you guys think is better campy veloce or ultegra?

thanks Mike

shinomaster

ultegra is way better. Centaur is more equal to ultegra.

demoncyclist

Veloce. Its a Campy thang!!!

pinky

Whatever control system your more comfortable with.

slide13

Centaur is more the equal of Ultegra, Veloce is similar to 105. Both are fine groups, especially the new 10spd 2004 Veloce groupo.

I'm a Campy guy who works at a bike shop that only sells Shimano bikes, so my new road bike is Ultegra equipped because of the good deal I got on it. I would rather be riding the new 04 10spd Veloce group though if I had the choice and the funds for it. Go with whichever lever style you prefer.

p3ntuprage

campy brake-levers give me a semi-on.

i'm not sure how that's going to affest your decision.

fssb
sparky

froze

yikes, which is better Scotts toilet paper or Charmin? I like Scotts, and I also prefer Campy over Shimano, but then again I prefer Suntour Superbe over those, so who am I too say? One thing you might want to do is go to your LBS and ask to see the replacement parts list for both and see who has the most replacement parts available, the importance of this is whether or not you have to replace the entire part or just a small part of it.

crowtee

The reason I'm asking is I can get a bianchi veloce for 800 dollars or the vigorrille full ultegra for 1200 or the brand new vig for 1500. the veloce is 2003 model. also looking at a 2003 lemond buenos aries for 1200. Can't make up my mind.

Thanks for any help
mike

shinomaster

sorry guys this isn't about which is better campy vs. shimano. Veloce is way farther down on the campy line than ultegra is on the shimano line. Veloce is heavy. Really heavy. Ultegra is way better designed and is lighter and just slightly under in Dura ace in performance. Veloce is under Record, Chorus, and Centaur. I have both Record and Chorus on my bikes and they kick ass but Veloce is not quite there. Ultegra is a lot closer in performance. Trust me I have used ultegra too..

Kev

I agree Shinomaster, Ultegra is better $400 better I'm not sure if you are purely looking at the price. You could ask the shop about upgrading the components at time of purchase maybe they will work something out with you to take it up to Centaur then we are talking closer match. I personaly prefer Campy but not everyone does go ride both bikes see what style you prefer.

ezryder03

Both are of good quality and you just have to find out which one works well for you. An ultegra may work well for others but it may not for you and as well as the veloce does for others and may not work well for you. Cost, comfort, weight and your level in cycling has to be considered. My point is, buy what you feel like buying and my suggestion is try both and make your conclusion from there. I found out that i'm comfortable with campy's and it does not mean that campy's are better than shimano. In sports, it's 60% athletic ability of the individual and 40% is equipment related. Stands true in most cases. COMPONENTS OF A BIKE DON'T KICK a**, THE RIDER DOES KICK a** REALLY REALLY BAD.Gather as much information you need ( pros and cons ) of either component/brand from freinds, your LBS and make sure you get the **** right size**** bike you need or else those components you've mentioned won't matter. Good luck. Take some time and be patient. Patience pays off.

Arizona-Cyclist

Well said ezyrider03. I ride all the time with people who have a lot of opinions about wheels, frames, components, etc. A lot of them are very critical of things they have no right to be critical of. At the level most of us ride it is not the equipment. I am no faster on my Chorus equiped Cannondale than my 105 equipped Orbea.

To Crowtree - get the one that makes you smile most as you ride it. Veloce would serve you well as would the Ultegra. Having ridden both - I prefer Campy shifting and braking, but that's me. I am led to believe that Campy lasts longer in general, but you will probably not wear either out unless you are being overly hard on your equipment.

Provence

Sorry Shinomaster but you're mistaken thinking Veloce is really heavy compared with Ultegra. Checked both Campag and Shimano's official sites and i've calculated there's surprisingly only half a pound weight difference between the two groups. Unless you're a racing cyclist i wouldn't worry too much about such a small weight difference. Personally i find it better to mix and match from two adjacent groups. This way i've the best of both worlds. Value for money and performance where it really matters. Then i use the money saved to reduce rotational weight.

Ultegra : 6.76 lbs
Veloce : 7.28 lbs