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Old 06-28-11, 06:46 AM   #3676
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Keep looking. There are plenty of Bianchis... They are just not all celeste..
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Old 06-28-11, 06:54 AM   #3677
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ouch! that is hot...as for me, i will be riding a 30 minute criterium this evening with the temp sitting at about 100 degrees F

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Did "De Muur" today on my new TT-bike just for the heck of it.



32 degrees centigrade here so I'm near dead now
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Old 06-29-11, 03:33 PM   #3678
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@Squirrelli: Stickers be gone. New saddle on.
I went with the Fizik Arione per recommendation here and LBS.
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Old 06-29-11, 03:43 PM   #3679
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I went with the Fizik Arione per recommendation here and LBS.
Still not. Unless you're an Orlando Magic fan or something.
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Old 06-29-11, 04:23 PM   #3680
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@Squirrelli: Stickers be gone. New saddle on.
I went with the Fizik Arione per recommendation here and LBS.
Better pics would help.

1.) put the bike in a shaded area with an even background (this is why so many people use garage doors.)
2.) put chain in the big ring.
3.) If possible, don't use a cell phone camera.
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Old 06-29-11, 04:57 PM   #3681
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Scott Speedster S30

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Old 06-29-11, 06:25 PM   #3682
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Scott Speedster S30

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1.) saddle nose down.
2.) non drive side pics
3.) green bar tape utterly makes no sense with this build.
4.) no saddle to bar drop
5.) flip it.
6.) Like a bazillion spacers under the stem. Unsafe and also doesn't look cool.

Bike has potential though.
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Old 06-29-11, 06:28 PM   #3683
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6.) Like a bazillion spacers under the stem. Unsafe and also doesn't look cool.

Bike has potential though.

Serious question: Is it really unsafe and why?
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Old 06-29-11, 06:36 PM   #3684
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Serious question: Is it really unsafe and why?
Yes. Most manufacturers have a max spacer limit due to the stresses too many spacers put on the fork steerer. It is made worse if you use a longer stem.
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Old 06-29-11, 06:43 PM   #3685
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Not

1.) saddle nose down.
2.) non drive side pics
3.) green bar tape utterly makes no sense with this build.
4.) no saddle to bar drop
5.) flip it.
6.) Like a bazillion spacers under the stem. Unsafe and also doesn't look cool.

Bike has potential though.
Yup, seriously needs a fit. If there has been a fit, then it's the wrong size bike.
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Old 06-29-11, 08:02 PM   #3686
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1.) saddle nose down.
I had been playing with the seat angle since the saddle was ruthlessly antagonizing my giblets and was testing out a slight angle downward. I probably just need a better saddle since it seems most reviewers all agree the saddle is painful.

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Fair enough. When I get a chance maybe I'll edit the post and append some drive side images.

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3.) green bar tape utterly makes no sense with this build.
Since the green bar tape makes the bike look glorious, I'm unsure which part you feel "makes no sense".

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4.) no saddle to bar drop
Is this really necessary considering it will primarily be a commuting bike and I'm looking for a more upright riding position? The seating position to bar height (excluding the recent tinkering with seat angle) represents the setup I've found most comfortable. Is this not what I should use to dictate the setup?

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6.) Like a bazillion spacers under the stem. Unsafe and also doesn't look cool.
I'm not sure I understand this comment in conjunction with the statement "Most manufacturers have a max spacer limit due to the stresses too many spacers put on the fork steerer."

The number of spacers on the stem was set by Scott. Are you saying that in this instance, Scott put more spacers on than they had engineered the stem to handle? Other than increased drag and apparently being uncool, is there a reason to remove the spacers provided it's safe to use them? I ask because the bike is primarily going to be a commuting bike and I'd like to maintain the more upright riding position if I can help it.

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Old 06-30-11, 12:37 AM   #3687
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Did "De Muur" today on my new TT-bike just for the heck of it.



32 degrees centigrade here so I'm near dead now
Nice work man! Did you have to get off the bike somewhere on De Muur? I know I had to riding the RVV. Was awesome though.
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Replacement frame is built up. I shall take some pics today for this thread. IDK if it was as hot as it's predecessor, but it's not cracked, and it was free. I think it is kinda hot though.
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Old 06-30-11, 08:14 AM   #3689
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I had been playing with the seat angle since the saddle was ruthlessly antagonizing my giblets and was testing out a slight angle downward. I probably just need a better saddle since it seems most reviewers all agree the saddle is painful.



Fair enough. When I get a chance maybe I'll edit the post and append some drive side images.



Since the green bar tape makes the bike look glorious, I'm unsure which part you feel "makes no sense".



Is this really necessary considering it will primarily be a commuting bike and I'm looking for a more upright riding position? The seating position to bar height (excluding the recent tinkering with seat angle) represents the setup I've found most comfortable. Is this not what I should use to dictate the setup?



I'm not sure I understand this comment in conjunction with the statement "Most manufacturers have a max spacer limit due to the stresses too many spacers put on the fork steerer."

The number of spacers on the stem was set by Scott. Are you saying that in this instance, Scott put more spacers on than they had engineered the stem to handle? Other than increased drag and apparently being uncool, is there a reason to remove the spacers provided it's safe to use them? I ask because the bike is primarily going to be a commuting bike and I'd like to maintain the more upright riding position if I can help it.
This isn't a hot or not commuter thread. You don't get any slack because it is a commuter. And hey, it's just my opinion - you're the one who has to ride it so go with what you like.

The spacer thing could be a safety issue though. Manufacturers send bikes out with uncut forks so the owner can have it cut appropriately when they are fitted on the bike. To be clear, we are talking about the spacers under the stem, not anything on the stem itself. You might want to check with Scott, but most manufacturers say not to have more than 1.5 inches of spacers stacked underneath the stem for safety's sake.
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Bike has potential though.
+1

I know you like that green tape but with some white tape that bike would be too hot to touch.
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I know you like that green tape but with some white tape that bike would be too hot to touch.
It originally came with white tape and it bored me to tears. Literally, I was so bored I openly wept like a child.
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It originally came with white tape and it bored me to tears. Literally, I was so bored I openly wept like a child.
If you want a roadbike and then post it in this thread, make sure it looks like a roadbike and not a commuter bike-roadbike-wannabee, eg. lose the spacers, flip the stem, drop the handlebars, and get more of a saddle-to-handlebar drop. Otherwise as it currently stands, meh.
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Old 06-30-11, 10:54 AM   #3693
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I know you like that green tape but with some white tape that bike would be too hot to touch.
I was thinking white tape would look good too. After that maybe black or blue - or maybe even a combo. The green just doesn't go with anything on the bike.

Btw - here is a Speedster I owned a while back. I didn't really try to make it a 'hot' build. It was a crit and training bike.







edit: btw this was right after I built the bike (note no pedals yet). I ended up removing all the spacers and cutting the fork. Made for an uber stiff front end.

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Old 06-30-11, 10:55 AM   #3694
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Huh, I just noticed I have seen little to no Bianchis in this thread (after looking through the first 36 pages). Is no Bianchi worthy of the grand epithet of "hot"?


Critique away
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I was thinking white tape would look good too. After that maybe black or blue - or maybe even a combo. The green just doesn't go with anything on the bike.

Btw - here is a Speedster I owned a while back. I didn't really try to make it a 'hot' build. It was a crit and training bike.







edit: btw this was right after I built the bike (note no pedals yet). I ended up removing all the spacers and cutting the fork. Made for an uber stiff front end.
The specific colors of the green tape and blue frame are almost perfectly (at least that my eyes can distinguish) the cold end of a rectangular tetrad color scheme and I rather like it. What I don't like is the standard monochrome color arrangements all of the frame manufacturers use. It's as if they are afraid to pair any color with anything other than black or white. Red/White, Red/Black, Blue/White, Blue/Black.... meh.
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It originally came with white tape and it bored me to tears. Literally, I was so bored I openly wept like a child.
Yeah, I kind of figured it was white originally and you got bored of it. That lime green is a pretty drastic change though. Maybe something like this?

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Yeah, I kind of figured it was white originally and you got bored of it. That lime green is a pretty drastic change though. Maybe something like this?

I was pretty close to buying precisely that tape but I decided against it because even the slightest inconsistency in wrapping ruins the effect, as does the figure 8 around the shifters.
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Without further ado, I present you my new S2.





and the obligatory BF white garage door pic.

I'm not sure if I like it better than my SLC, but it doesn't have a crack in the top tube, and it was free. For refference, here is the fallen comrade:
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How rude....weight?
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Rude, what? I'm rolling out to the LBS here in a few to toss it on their scale, and see.
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