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ravenmore 06-30-11 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Skribb (Post 12858990)
I had been playing with the seat angle since the saddle was ruthlessly antagonizing my giblets and was testing out a slight angle downward. I probably just need a better saddle since it seems most reviewers all agree the saddle is painful.



Fair enough. When I get a chance maybe I'll edit the post and append some drive side images.



Since the green bar tape makes the bike look glorious, I'm unsure which part you feel "makes no sense".



Is this really necessary considering it will primarily be a commuting bike and I'm looking for a more upright riding position? The seating position to bar height (excluding the recent tinkering with seat angle) represents the setup I've found most comfortable. Is this not what I should use to dictate the setup?



I'm not sure I understand this comment in conjunction with the statement "Most manufacturers have a max spacer limit due to the stresses too many spacers put on the fork steerer."

The number of spacers on the stem was set by Scott. Are you saying that in this instance, Scott put more spacers on than they had engineered the stem to handle? Other than increased drag and apparently being uncool, is there a reason to remove the spacers provided it's safe to use them? I ask because the bike is primarily going to be a commuting bike and I'd like to maintain the more upright riding position if I can help it.

This isn't a hot or not commuter thread. ;) You don't get any slack because it is a commuter. And hey, it's just my opinion - you're the one who has to ride it so go with what you like.

The spacer thing could be a safety issue though. Manufacturers send bikes out with uncut forks so the owner can have it cut appropriately when they are fitted on the bike. To be clear, we are talking about the spacers under the stem, not anything on the stem itself. You might want to check with Scott, but most manufacturers say not to have more than 1.5 inches of spacers stacked underneath the stem for safety's sake.

byrnemm 06-30-11 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ravenmore (Post 12858545)
Bike has potential though.

+1

I know you like that green tape but with some white tape that bike would be too hot to touch.

Skribb 06-30-11 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by byrnemm (Post 12861338)
+1

I know you like that green tape but with some white tape that bike would be too hot to touch.

It originally came with white tape and it bored me to tears. Literally, I was so bored I openly wept like a child.

mpath 06-30-11 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Skribb (Post 12861386)
It originally came with white tape and it bored me to tears. Literally, I was so bored I openly wept like a child.

If you want a roadbike and then post it in this thread, make sure it looks like a roadbike and not a commuter bike-roadbike-wannabee, eg. lose the spacers, flip the stem, drop the handlebars, and get more of a saddle-to-handlebar drop. Otherwise as it currently stands, meh.

ravenmore 06-30-11 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by byrnemm (Post 12861338)
+1

I know you like that green tape but with some white tape that bike would be too hot to touch.

I was thinking white tape would look good too. After that maybe black or blue - or maybe even a combo. The green just doesn't go with anything on the bike.

Btw - here is a Speedster I owned a while back. I didn't really try to make it a 'hot' build. It was a crit and training bike.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...e/39c1ed30.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...e/17151fcb.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...e/6f20db3f.jpg

edit: btw this was right after I built the bike (note no pedals yet). I ended up removing all the spacers and cutting the fork. Made for an uber stiff front end.

mazdaspeed 06-30-11 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mb2000 (Post 12849721)
Huh, I just noticed I have seen little to no Bianchis in this thread (after looking through the first 36 pages). Is no Bianchi worthy of the grand epithet of "hot"?

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ass/bikes3.jpg

Critique away :)

Skribb 06-30-11 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ravenmore (Post 12861437)
I was thinking white tape would look good too. After that maybe black or blue - or maybe even a combo. The green just doesn't go with anything on the bike.

Btw - here is a Speedster I owned a while back. I didn't really try to make it a 'hot' build. It was a crit and training bike.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...e/39c1ed30.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...e/17151fcb.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...e/6f20db3f.jpg

edit: btw this was right after I built the bike (note no pedals yet). I ended up removing all the spacers and cutting the fork. Made for an uber stiff front end.

The specific colors of the green tape and blue frame are almost perfectly (at least that my eyes can distinguish) the cold end of a rectangular tetrad color scheme and I rather like it. What I don't like is the standard monochrome color arrangements all of the frame manufacturers use. It's as if they are afraid to pair any color with anything other than black or white. Red/White, Red/Black, Blue/White, Blue/Black.... meh.

byrnemm 06-30-11 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Skribb (Post 12861386)
It originally came with white tape and it bored me to tears. Literally, I was so bored I openly wept like a child.

Yeah, I kind of figured it was white originally and you got bored of it. That lime green is a pretty drastic change though. Maybe something like this?

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=208709

Skribb 06-30-11 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by byrnemm (Post 12861815)
Yeah, I kind of figured it was white originally and you got bored of it. That lime green is a pretty drastic change though. Maybe something like this?

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=208709

I was pretty close to buying precisely that tape but I decided against it because even the slightest inconsistency in wrapping ruins the effect, as does the figure 8 around the shifters.

Soloist Assassin 06-30-11 12:46 PM

Without further ado, I present you my new S2.

http://crxbart.com/cycling/s2day1pic1.jpg
http://crxbart.com/cycling/s2day1pic2.jpg
http://crxbart.com/cycling/s2day1pic3.jpg
http://crxbart.com/cycling/s2day1pic4.jpg
and the obligatory BF white garage door pic.
http://crxbart.com/cycling/s2day1pic5.jpg
I'm not sure if I like it better than my SLC, but it doesn't have a crack in the top tube, and it was free. For refference, here is the fallen comrade:
http://crxbart.com/cycling/lateaprilbikes3.jpg

VA_Esquire 06-30-11 01:01 PM

How rude....weight?

Soloist Assassin 06-30-11 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by VA_Esquire (Post 12862119)
How rude....weight?

Rude, what? I'm rolling out to the LBS here in a few to toss it on their scale, and see.

VA_Esquire 06-30-11 01:07 PM

rude b/c you didnt send me one! haha

Soloist Assassin 06-30-11 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by VA_Esquire (Post 12862145)
rude b/c you didnt send me one! haha

if I could I would.... everyone should have an S Series Cervelo. I gotta say I am glad how it turned out. It's almost like all the parts I bought were made for this frame. It all matches together nicely.

Quel 06-30-11 01:25 PM

Those hoods look like wrist breakers. Hot looking bike otherwise though. Of course, it's no S5...

psuaero 06-30-11 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin (Post 12862054)
Without further ado, I present you my new S2.

http://crxbart.com/cycling/s2day1pic1.jpg
http://crxbart.com/cycling/s2day1pic2.jpg
http://crxbart.com/cycling/s2day1pic3.jpg
http://crxbart.com/cycling/s2day1pic4.jpg
and the obligatory BF white garage door pic.
http://crxbart.com/cycling/s2day1pic5.jpg
I'm not sure if I like it better than my SLC, but it doesn't have a crack in the top tube, and it was free. For refference, here is the fallen comrade:
http://crxbart.com/cycling/lateaprilbikes3.jpg


I, for one, like it better. I liked your old ride and the paint job but the new one with the deep wheels is more stealthy. Big thumbs up!

sharrn 06-30-11 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ravenmore (Post 12857985)
Better pics would help.

1.) put the bike in a shaded area with an even background (this is why so many people use garage doors.)
2.) put chain in the big ring.
3.) If possible, don't use a cell phone camera.

I was in a bit of a hurry as I had to go to work. I don't have a garage, but I'll get better pictures with my actual camera when I have more time.

Shuagster 06-30-11 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin (Post 12862054)
Without further ado, I present you my new S2.

So, are you gonna change your screen name to S2 Assassin now? hehe

WHOOOSSHHH... 06-30-11 01:56 PM

It's no Venge, but it's definitely HOT! Shame about they boat anchor for a stem. Even my Ti bike rocks the lightweight 3T CARBON LTD...:innocent:

Soloist Assassin 06-30-11 03:09 PM

6130g, or 13.5lbs is the official weigh via a Feedback Sports Alpine scale.

Soloist Assassin 06-30-11 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by WHOOOSSHHH... (Post 12862388)
It's no Venge, but it's definitely HOT! Shame about they boat anchor for a stem. Even my Ti bike rocks the lightweight 3T CARBON LTD...:innocent:


That's only like a 10g difference. I'd like to get an Extralite at -30g, but the boat achor bars added like 100g over my Syntace bars, but I like them. At that point, I pretty much gave up on making it lighter.

AdelaaR 06-30-11 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FreddyV (Post 12859861)
Nice work man! Did you have to get off the bike somewhere on De Muur? I know I had to riding the RVV. Was awesome though.

Definately. Was hammering my 39/21 gear on the last cobblestone bit like a madman :)

WHOOOSSHHH... 06-30-11 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin (Post 12862738)
That's only like a 10g difference. I'd like to get an Extralite at -30g, but the boat achor bars added like 100g over my Syntace bars, but I like them. At that point, I pretty much gave up on making it lighter.

I've got the same bars on both my bikes. It's the only thing I will not change. They are the best!

Soloist Assassin 06-30-11 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WHOOOSSHHH... (Post 12862796)
I've got the same bars on both my bikes. It's the only thing I will not change. They are the best!

I cut 8g off of mine. You can see if you look at the SLC pic vs. the S2. ;) That last inch or so is such a waste, and it looked goofy. Also my pars were rotated too high in the SLC pic, I changed it 2min into the next ride.

UCIMBZ 06-30-11 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skribb (Post 12858990)
I had been playing with the seat angle since the saddle was ruthlessly antagonizing my giblets and was testing out a slight angle downward. I probably just need a better saddle since it seems most reviewers all agree the saddle is painful.



Fair enough. When I get a chance maybe I'll edit the post and append some drive side images.



Since the green bar tape makes the bike look glorious, I'm unsure which part you feel "makes no sense".



Is this really necessary considering it will primarily be a commuting bike and I'm looking for a more upright riding position? The seating position to bar height (excluding the recent tinkering with seat angle) represents the setup I've found most comfortable. Is this not what I should use to dictate the setup?



I'm not sure I understand this comment in conjunction with the statement "Most manufacturers have a max spacer limit due to the stresses too many spacers put on the fork steerer."

The number of spacers on the stem was set by Scott. Are you saying that in this instance, Scott put more spacers on than they had engineered the stem to handle? Other than increased drag and apparently being uncool, is there a reason to remove the spacers provided it's safe to use them? I ask because the bike is primarily going to be a commuting bike and I'd like to maintain the more upright riding position if I can help it.

Here is yet another example of some one who doesn't know where he/she is posting. No use defending your ugly bike. This thread is not about what works for you. As a matter of fact we don't even care how your bike rides, how you like it to look, how you look like or what your proportions are. You make your bike look good for this thread. Take a nice picture, post it, and then transform your bike back to the ugly thing that works for you. Capiche?


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