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Old 01-08-12, 11:19 PM   #6001
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What's the frame weight on that Look? Seems kinda heavy given the parts list.
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Old 01-08-12, 11:30 PM   #6002
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garage doors are for people who can't take good pictures. You obviously can. Hot.
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Old 01-08-12, 11:46 PM   #6003
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Personally, I think that stem kills that Look. The shape looks weird, plus it would look better if it was a -17deg. It's horribly staged as well. Stage it correctly, and change the stem, and it would be well over a hundred degrees.
You know the c-stem is part of the module right? It's adjustable from -9% to +13%

I think the staging is cool. Little more more DoF would be nice. On the bike itself, it looks like your drops could be rotated back a little (towards your knees) and the hoods raised a little though. The saddle nose looks a little down, but that could be lens distortion.
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Old 01-09-12, 02:11 AM   #6004
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I hope that Look sees some race time and not just a trophy bike.

Beautiful.
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Old 01-09-12, 02:26 AM   #6005
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Old 01-09-12, 02:42 AM   #6006
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Both Looks are hot.
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Old 01-09-12, 04:45 AM   #6008
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NOT! wrong gear, blue door, horrible seat, not enough drop to saddle...
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Gears - yeah the gear is due to quickly gearing up on coming to a halt so I could get off again in a hurry. That bit slipped my mind.

The door - blue-yellow colour blind or just not a fan of primary colours and colour theory?

The saddle - not pretty sure, but ugly? I wouldn't go that far. It's black, more or less period correct, light, cheap and most importantly comfortable in it's position - more or less level from front to rear third, with the raised rear up enough to sit back on. Any more sloping and there'd be more pressure on my arms than I'd want on long rides.
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NOT! hot is not a practical term. Its a pure esthetic state.
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Old 01-09-12, 07:48 AM   #6011
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Definitely Hot! Curious about the Madfibers. I can barely see the ghost image of manufacturer decal on the front wheel, but not the back. Is this just the picture quality? Also noticed the red logo on front, not back. Any rationale? Just comparing the looks?
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Old 01-09-12, 08:16 AM   #6012
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What's the frame weight on that Look? Seems kinda heavy given the parts list.
I was kind of thinking the same thing. 13 and half lbs would be insane for most of us, but that Look setup with MadFiber wheels.. Im suprised it's not closer to 12lbs.
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Old 01-09-12, 08:19 AM   #6013
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JSS, your bike is SICK. Very Hot....no matter what anyone says it's hot.
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How do I post pictures? Been a member of different forums for years and never had an issue posting pics until BF.
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Old 01-09-12, 09:26 AM   #6015
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ViNtAgE carbon. 1988 Calfee/Carbonframes sapphire. I this this is hot . lightweight and vintage look with downtube shifter.
also brown sidewalls.
LOVE the bike. My current "grail" is a Lemond/Carbonframes/Calfee.


The photo is not very flattering, however.
  • back up so the whole bike is in the picture
  • there is a reason white garage doors make a great backdrop
  • rotate the bars
  • big ring
  • lose the CO2

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I was kind of thinking the same thing. 13 and half lbs would be insane for most of us, but that Look setup with MadFiber wheels.. Im suprised it's not closer to 12lbs.
That is the weight with the pedals it is 12.99 with out the pedals.

My handle bars are heavy but i can't seem to give them up because they are so comfortable, and I could go to a lighter seat. The combination could save me another 400 grams or .9 pounds
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Old 01-09-12, 11:57 AM   #6018
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SRAM RED, MAD FIBER WHEELS, ZERO GRAVITY BRAKES, LOOK BLADE CARBON Ti PEDALS:: 13.4LBS



It's a 98 degree bike...Switch the stem (it's horrific) and you get a pefect 100...seriously though, what a beauty!!
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Old 01-09-12, 01:54 PM   #6019
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It's a 98 degree bike...Switch the stem (it's horrific) and you get a pefect 100...seriously though, what a beauty!!
The Stem is Ugly but is an integrated component of the frame
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There are some pretty special things I like about that Look. Spent some time on their site for the first time ever checking it all out. Pretty neat stuff. That stem is a complete utter fail product however. For one they don't make it in a 130mm, for too, it is way too heavy, and ugly. Your stem being not angled down enough just looks weird, it looks like it is set at zero degrees, which is never hot. Get some new bars, stem, and saddle, and that thing could close to the 11lb rang.
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There are some pretty special things I like about that Look. Spent some time on their site for the first time ever checking it all out. Pretty neat stuff. That stem is a complete utter fail product however. For one they don't make it in a 130mm, for too, it is way too heavy, and ugly. Your stem being not angled down enough just looks weird, it looks like it is set at zero degrees, which is never hot. Get some new bars, stem, and saddle, and that thing could close to the 11lb rang.
i disagree about the stem, if well fitted it looks aesthetic on the bike, i agree i looks bulky...but i like it. still that look NOT for this threads standards....those wheels are just so F-ing nice!!!
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There are some pretty special things I like about that Look. Spent some time on their site for the first time ever checking it all out. Pretty neat stuff. That stem is a complete utter fail product however. For one they don't make it in a 130mm, for too, it is way too heavy, and ugly. Your stem being not angled down enough just looks weird, it looks like it is set at zero degrees, which is never hot. Get some new bars, stem, and saddle, and that thing could close to the 11lb rang.
Thanks for the feedback, although your information about the stem is not correct, the stem is adjustable by 10mm, here are the specifications from Look's website, I have the 120mm to 130mm length:

C-STEM INCLINABLE FROM -9° TO +13° AND
ADJUSTABLE IN LENGTH (10mm) - 5 LENGTHS
AVAILABLE = 80 – 90 / 90-100 /
100-110/110-120/120-130 mm

As far as the angle of the Stem, the bike was fit by one of the top Bike fitters in the world : Steve Hogg, that is how he set it based on my sizing and flexibility. I understand from an aesthetic point of view it would look better angled down more but that is how the bike fits me.

As far as the weight the Stem only weighs 160grams.
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Yeah seriously. How do you like those MadFibers? mmm Ribbon Spokes... mmm....
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Old 01-09-12, 06:22 PM   #6024
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Thanks for the feedback, although your information about the stem is not correct, the stem is adjustable by 10mm, here are the specifications from Look's website, I have the 120mm to 130mm length:

C-STEM INCLINABLE FROM -9° TO +13° AND
ADJUSTABLE IN LENGTH (10mm) - 5 LENGTHS
AVAILABLE = 80 – 90 / 90-100 /
100-110/110-120/120-130 mm

As far as the angle of the Stem, the bike was fit by one of the top Bike fitters in the world : Steve Hogg, that is how he set it based on my sizing and flexibility. I understand from an aesthetic point of view it would look better angled down more but that is how the bike fits me.

As far as the weight the Stem only weighs 160grams.
Oh, I didn't notice that about the stem length being adjustable. Like I said this Look brand stuff is all new to me. You should tell Steve that you are more flexible than that, and lower the stem. 160 is kinda heavy too. Anything over 150g is just plain unacceptable.
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The Look is an absolutely awesome machine, and the Mad Fiber wheels look much better without the decals, but for me the stem and the bend in the top tube make it a Not.
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