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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdaspeed View Post
    well **** if bikes that aren't finished count...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Propofol View Post
    Hey, I've been on both sides of the drape sir...was a surgeon for 3 years before wising up.

    The only step up from the Porsche to the Ferrari would be the hit you take to your wallet!
    Funny how you hear this from time to time, but never the other way around.

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    You anesthesiologists make way too much money! Float a little out here to us starving surgeons.
    You made me laugh for a while there.........

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    Placebo effect. Have the two bikes set up precisely the same with the exact measurement and components and then ride ten 2 hour rides on each blindfolded on a trainer. Then report back to us. I will bet your 1.8 mph drifts down to nothing.
    I don't know about the 1 or 1.8 MPH number, but I can tell you that one of my bikes is far faster than the others. I would have agreed with you had it not being the case with me. The newest one is 1.5 years old, so I think we are past the "new bike placebo effect".

    Quote Originally Posted by JSS View Post
    If you are really interested here is my personal opinion owning both models, first of all the 595 is discontinued, the current model is a 596. I have a ridden a 595 for a few years before I bought the 695 and currently use it as my winter bike. The 595 is a great all around bike and as you stated provides the ability to customize the stem and cranks. From a performance and handling perspective the 695 is head and shoulders above the 595. The power transfer of the Zed 2 crank set is flawless it is like nothing I have ever ridden (the 595 is full campy super record), the handling and cornering is far superior and the road feel can be dialied in using the different polymer. I average over 1 mph faster on my training rides with the 695 over the 595.
    My experience is that the 695 is a tremendous step up like going from a Porsche to a Ferrari but your experience may be different
    I appreciate your comparison and opinion as it is the first one I hear from someone that has had both. From your description, it sounds like the 695 is just what you would expect from a LOOK. There are still a couple of things about it that don't sit well with me personally. The crank set is one. I hate proprietary parts/equipment that obligate you or tie you to get their other things too. This crank set is an example of it. Besides, there is nothing in the market like Campagnolo CULT bearings, and no chain ring works as flawless as the Campagnolo chain rings. BTW, can they be used with the Zed cranks (same BCD)? Another is that they moved away from the "lugged frames" (too much work and cost) on their high end frames when they discontinued the 595 model. That is a very personal thing for me though.

    BTW, thanks for voting me in for the 695 as I did not even know I was running for the honors LOL............ I presume you "voted me in" because of what I said in another thread:

    I am seriously debating whether I'll get a new frame set or not this year. If I do, it will be with internal electronic and will put SR EPS on it. Only a 50% chance it will happen though. If it does, the only candidates I have so far are Parlee Z3 SL or a Colnago C59. Nothing else is tempting me at this point.
    To be frank, I am likely not going to get a new bike. I am simply not having the urge and nothing is calling me. Besides, I am very satisfied with both of my bikes right now. I wished I wasn't so maybe I would have the urge and help the economy LOL.......

    Back to HOT or NOT............
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    Quote Originally Posted by surgeonstone View Post
    Placebo effect. Have the two bikes set up precisely the same with the exact measurement and components and then ride ten 2 hour rides on each blindfolded on a trainer. Then report back to us. I will bet your 1.8 mph drifts down to nothing.
    The bikes are set up from a measurement perspective exactly the same both fit by a professional bike fitter 3 weeks ago.
    Saying there is no difference on a trainer is a ridiculous statement (that would be true if I were riding a 25 pound bike from Walmart), the weight, aerodynamics and power transfer of the 695 gives you the advantage on the road, at least be intelligent with your comments.

    what hospital do you work at, I want to stay far away....................
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    Quote Originally Posted by surgeonstone View Post
    You anesthesiologists make way too much money! Float a little out here to us starving surgeons.
    not smart enough to be in medicine, just one of the first 20 employees of one of those internet search companies that went public a couple of years ago..............

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    bike came on Thursday along with 8 inches of snow

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoNP View Post


    bike came on Thursday along with 8 inches of snow
    Nice bike girl! Although it is a "not", but I am sure you'll get many years of joyful riding out if it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSS View Post
    not smart enough to be in medicine, just one of the first 20 employees of one of those internet search companies that went public a couple of years ago..............
    Well in that case, will you be my friend also?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSS View Post
    not smart enough to be in medicine, just one of the first 20 employees of one of those internet search companies that went public a couple of years ago..............
    No, you were smart enough to stay OUT of medicine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSS View Post
    The bikes are set up from a measurement perspective exactly the same both fit by a professional bike fitter 3 weeks ago.
    Saying there is no difference on a trainer is a ridiculous statement (that would be true if I were riding a 25 pound bike from Walmart), the weight, aerodynamics and power transfer of the 695 gives you the advantage on the road, at least be intelligent with your comments.

    what hospital do you work at, I want to stay far away....................
    You misinterpret me. My comment was meant in jest, certainly not a serious tone. The failures of communication with the internet.
    I used the trainer as a hypothetical as the practability of riding on the road blind folded is not so good. And really was I trying to insult you- no. Just a light hearted comment on how hard it is to seperate out the motivation and perceived performance increase with trying out new bicycles. We want the new item to perform better and so it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by surgeonstone View Post
    You misinterpret me.
    I used the trainer as a hypothetical as the practability of riding on the road blind folded is not so good. And really was I trying to insult you- no. Just a light hearted comment on how hard it is to seperate out the motivation and perceived performance increase with trying out new bicycles. We want the new item to perform better and so it does.
    With all do respect, I have been a competitive racer for 15 years ranging from Cat 2 to now cat 4, I ride my 595 all the time, I don't think I am really effected by the "halo" factor. The 695 is a superior bike in every aspect over the 595 period, (I am certain look would confirm) some may argue that the components Super Record vs. SRAM red / Mavic vs. Madfiber are better on my 595. 2 weeks ago I rode the 695 on my 25 mile training route at 22.5mph, the next 3 rides on the same route riding my 595 I averaged 20.8, Today I rode the same route on my 695 and I averaged 22.3..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by surgeonstone View Post
    You misinterpret me. My comment was meant in jest, certainly not a serious tone. The failures of communication with the internet.
    I used the trainer as a hypothetical as the practability of riding on the road blind folded is not so good. And really was I trying to insult you- no. Just a light hearted comment on how hard it is to seperate out the motivation and perceived performance increase with trying out new bicycles. We want the new item to perform better and so it does.
    Don't you get it. JSS is not American. He is not affected by this nonsense of placebo thingy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UCIMBZ View Post
    Don't you get it. JSS is not American. He is not affected by this nonsense of placebo thingy.
    Finally UCIMBZ gets something right!



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    I do feel faster/fresher at the end of a ride on my lighter bike, but I think it would be folly to try and compare one ride vs. another as there are way too many other variables.... wind, temperature, what I ate, how I feel/TSB, etc.

    Someone should post a bike.
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    That Schwinn is hot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSS View Post
    Finally UCIMBZ gets something right!
    I'm suprised the MOD's haven' given you UCIMBZ a little corner time for doing your best to clog up this thread with your drivel.....now it had been me doing this crap, it would have been off to the pokey for the 3rd time. Now both of you go haunt another thread. This ain't the JS vs BZ laugh hour...two freds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbie53 View Post
    That Schwinn is hot.
    Agreed, but I need to see a rider on that one....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rat fink View Post
    Why are the brake cables reversed (rear on L side)??
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    NOT all over

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    I think the Schwinn is hot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgasmd View Post
    Why are the brake cables reversed (rear on L side)??
    The European standards is the right hand controls the front brake. Motorcycles are also this way since the the left hand is the clutch foot brake for the rear. Some people like it this way, (especially motorcyclists) or the owner might be European.
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    Schwinn is definitely hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbie53 View Post
    That Schwinn is hot.
    Schwinn's are never hot

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancker View Post
    The European standards is the right hand controls the front brake. Motorcycles are also this way since the the left hand is the clutch foot brake for the rear. Some people like it this way, (especially motorcyclists) or the owner might be European.
    how about no. left front is standard for Europe.

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