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Old 03-02-12, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JSS
I don't think even UCIMBZ can fault this one

https://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/.../dsc0068ge.jpg
Really? I can see where some would think "muscular," but I just see "chunky" - that frame doesn't look particularly graceful to me, in that size. Not my cuppa.
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Those hoods and that steerer tube nipple poking through could be changed.
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Originally Posted by primov8
Have always like Ridley Noahs, horizontal and bent top tubes. This in particular, HOT!!!
Not with the brake hoods sitting taller than the saddle.

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Originally Posted by canam73
I'll play:

Hot. Can you pm or give me a link to more pics with details of the build?
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i dont mind a steerer nipple.
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Originally Posted by adriano
jss > ucimzyq.
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The Look = win
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Originally Posted by JSS
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Nice bike, not diggin the stem though.
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AMAZING BIKE!!! If I was to get another bike I would get this...except I am a 16 year old kid with no job, so that's not happening anytime soon...
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Originally Posted by JSS
I don't think even UCIMBZ can fault this one

Hot, would look better in a smaller size.
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Originally Posted by Rob13
Nice bike, not diggin the stem though.
its been mentioned before, but the proprietary Look stem and cranks are adjustable. so you can change the length and angle of the stem and the length of the crank arms.

thats why the stem looks funky. being able to adjust easily is a HOT function for me.
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Originally Posted by runningDoc
Hot. Can you pm or give me a link to more pics with details of the build?
This is the only other pic that I have, with it's kissing cousin:



Frame is a Waterford RS-22 with an original Sram Rival group. Nitto post, stem and bars. King headset. Soma saddle and tape. Wheels in pic and are some Velocity Razor rims on their hubs (Formula) but they have been since changed to A23/White industry handbuilts.

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Old 03-03-12, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by gadabout007
I don't see how the fit can be fine. if you ran a plumb line from your knee when your pedals are at 3 and 9 you'll see there's a problem when you seat is slammed like that. Handlebar position seems fine, but the hoods look odd pushed so far back, I assume that's because the bike doesn't fit you. How do you access them from the drops? Nothing personal, this thread is 100% about aesthetics and in it's current setup, it's just not doing it for me.
Gadabout I can agree with you 100% on the photographic esthetics of having the seat further back, so I will keep that in mind when posting images, but here is a shot with a plumb line:



The plum line is 5mm ahead in front of the pedal axel, so we're talking 1/5th of an inch. That has to be irrelevant. The hoods are a different story. Just switched from round to oval handle bars and tried to estimate the brifter position based on the old handlebars. Even ran it on the trainer for an hour before cutting all the cables and wrapping it all up. When I finally got it outdoors for a 3 hour ride (in January) I realized the handle bars needed to be rotated back to be more comfortable, but that of course threw the hoods off. And since it's internal cabling it's not a five minute job to redo everything. But thanks for your feedback :-)

Hope this isn't too off track. And I guess since I have not shaved my legs no one is going to think they are hot :-)

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Old 03-03-12, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JSS
I don't think even UCIMBZ can fault this one

I'll give this one a shot. It has Di2, but not only that it was not installed properly, and the battery is still visible. The yellow wheel stickers. Rotor cranks aren't exactly visually appealing. The excess stem needs cut, and it is staged poorly. Fix all that, and it would be quite hot.

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its been mentioned before, but the proprietary Look stem and cranks are adjustable. so you can change the length and angle of the stem and the length of the crank arms.

thats why the stem looks funky. being able to adjust easily is a HOT function for me.
That's like saying my girlfriend is really ugly, but she is good in the sack, and has a great personality. At the end of the day, that stem looks like a steaming pile of cow dung. Every time you post that bike you get the same response. Why don't you just buy a new stem already?
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@Kingfisher: I was under the impression that when measuring kops like you are in the picture, you are supposed to place the front of the knee over the pedal spindle, your string and the red line seem too far back at the knee to me. (that would likely put your seat farther back). The bottom of the line and the plumb bob also seem forward of the spindle/metatarsal head to me, which would also probably push your seat back some. Just my 0.02.

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How did we get the point where we are now discussing questionable fit theories in this thread? There are plenty of threads about bike fit. Why is this being discussed here?
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Originally Posted by JSS
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Oh yeah - stooopidy hot.
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Originally Posted by JSS
I don't think even UCIMBZ can fault this one

way too tall to be hot. its not nearly long enough to prevent a rider of that size from losing all the venge watts.
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100% photographic evidence that you probably need to move your saddle back.
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Originally Posted by adriano
way too tall to be hot. its not nearly long enough to prevent a rider of that size from losing all the venge watts.
Good point. What is that a 2-3cm drop? What good is an aero frame when you are sitting straight up?
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Originally Posted by adriano
100% photographic evidence that you probably need to move your saddle back.
I feel bad being the reason why this poor guy joined this forum, he was perfectly happy at ww.com where everyone loves each other and every bike is great

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Unlike the Ridley with its arched back look, this bike has absolutely nothing wrong with it aesthetically. I give this an unequivocal HOT. I don't even care what gear it's in. Yes, I even like the 'system' look of the stem and crank.

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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Really? I can see where some would think "muscular," but I just see "chunky" - that frame doesn't look particularly graceful to me, in that size. Not my cuppa.
Plus, go through all the trouble and expense to get an aerodynamically engineered frame but then put on wheels that have been proven sub-par in aerodynamic testing... and get shifting that is supposed to be the best of the best especially in the front and put on some boutique crankset. This bike reeks of purple anodized parts in a new millennium.
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Originally Posted by JSS
I feel bad being the reason why this poor guy joined this forum, he was perfectly happy at ww.com where everyone loves each other and every bike is great
i did qualify it with a "probably." if thats comfortable and powerful then good, but id definitely at least try moving down and back from there.

full disclosure: i recently moved forward and up and and am much happier for it. im still farther back than that though.
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Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin
Good point. What is that a 2-3cm drop? What good is an aero frame when you are sitting straight up?
2cm of drop isnt too bad as long as youre stretched out a bit. that is more than 2 or 3cm, but its far too short and well into sail territory assuming normal proportions.
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