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    Round 2:
    http://www.pedalroom.com/members/johnnytheboy
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    Quote Originally Posted by redtires View Post
    Ok...so after my last post...which was summarily widely regarded as not hot....here is the before and after since today's visit to VeloSwap...

    Before:
    Attachment 346764

    And after...
    Attachment 346763

    I think I want to go to black tape...red was the only thing I had in the garage and the old black stuff was trashed. And if I do that, not sure about the white saddle.
    Swapped out a white post/black saddle for a white saddle/black post...???
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnytheboy View Post
    Round 2:
    Still hot for me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raedyn View Post
    Updated my 03 Litespeed Arenberg. Swapped the wheels from my Kuota, and got rid of the 105 triple groupset for full Ultegra. I got the entire groupset for under 350 bucks. I would have liked a more up-to-date groupset, but I am pretty pleased with how it turned out.

    Aesthetically; the stem is too short, the saddle is too forward, and my skewers are all jacked up, but it fits. The hoods also look a little strange. I might have to play with them a little.


    Looks nice. But what really bothers me about this bike is the short stem and the saddle pushed ALL the way forward. It leads me to believe that the bike is too big for you. Just my honest observation. Check your fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnytheboy View Post
    Round 2:
    Still hot

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnytheboy View Post
    Round 2:
    Sweet Baby Jaybis, Hot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redtires View Post
    Ok...so after my last post...which was summarily widely regarded as not hot....here is the before and after since today's visit to VeloSwap...

    Before:
    Attachment 346764

    And after...
    Attachment 346763

    I think I want to go to black tape...red was the only thing I had in the garage and the old black stuff was trashed. And if I do that, not sure about the white saddle.

    I'd put the black saddle back on, but regardless...Much gooder!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cycledogg View Post
    Looks nice. But what really bothers me about this bike is the short stem and the saddle pushed ALL the way forward. It leads me to believe that the bike is too big for you. Just my honest observation. Check your fit.
    Cheers
    Some of us need short stems. I am one that does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
    I'd hate to have to close this thread. Really would.

    You guys better let it go, don't care who or what started it, just let it go and get back to normal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cycledogg View Post
    Looks nice. But what really bothers me about this bike is the short stem and the saddle pushed ALL the way forward. It leads me to believe that the bike is too big for you. Just my honest observation. Check your fit.
    Cheers
    Thanks. It's a 53 and I have a 32 inch inseam. Standover height seems to be perfect. My issue is that I have a relatively short torso and wingspan, plus I like riding in a relaxed position. I am trying to increase my bend at the waist, which should allow me to eventually either move the saddle back, increase the stem length, or maybe both. I've had reach issues with every bike that I've owned, and I've tried 52, 53, and 54. Maybe someday I'll invest in a custom build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cycledogg View Post
    Looks nice. But what really bothers me about this bike is the short stem and the saddle pushed ALL the way forward. It leads me to believe that the bike is too big for you. Just my honest observation. Check your fit.
    Cheers
    Doesn't look too crazy. A zero setback post would help, and the stem could be longer with some newer shifters with shorter reach. Frame looks pretty small, not sure stock ones get much smaller with 700c wheels.

    It's pretty warm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raedyn View Post
    Thanks. It's a 53 and I have a 32 inch inseam. Standover height seems to be perfect. My issue is that I have a relatively short torso and wingspan, plus I like riding in a relaxed position. I am trying to increase my bend at the waist, which should allow me to eventually either move the saddle back, increase the stem length, or maybe both. I've had reach issues with every bike that I've owned, and I've tried 52, 53, and 54. Maybe someday I'll invest in a custom build.
    You should not be trying to fix reach with saddle position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Ryder View Post
    Swapped out a white post/black saddle for a white saddle/black post...???
    I didn't even think of it that way!!! But really...not so much, the black post to match the black stem and bars. Maybe keep the white saddle and do white Fizik tape??? I dunno...don't get me wrong, I like it this way, but I love the opinions and feedback. A lot of very good rides here lately.
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    Per request of some guys here I took a better picture with the adjusted saddle and fixed chain. two pics

    the day she went home with me on november last year


    As is sits now with a few thousand miles and in beast mode!

    Cat 6 going on PRO....

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    Quote Originally Posted by redtires View Post
    I didn't even think of it that way!!! But really...not so much, the black post to match the black stem and bars. Maybe keep the white saddle and do white Fizik tape??? I dunno...don't get me wrong, I like it this way, but I love the opinions and feedback. A lot of very good rides here lately.
    Just giving you a hard time! It this only place we get away with it.

    I use white Fizik tape on 3 of my bikes, I like the feel, & it cleans up easy/nicely.
    Have you thought about half white/red?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lsberrios1 View Post
    Per request of some guys here I took a better picture with the adjusted saddle and fixed chain. two pics

    the day she went home with me on november last year


    As is sits now with a few thousand miles and in beast mode!

    I luv your bike!
    Matching cages is the only thing I can find, maybe black hoods, although I find the reds work in this case.
    I'm a Shimano fan boi, but SRAM Red would fit this build perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redtires View Post
    Ok...so after my last post...which was summarily widely regarded as not hot....here is the before and after since today's visit to VeloSwap...

    Before:
    Attachment 346764

    And after...
    Attachment 346763

    I think I want to go to black tape...red was the only thing I had in the garage and the old black stuff was trashed. And if I do that, not sure about the white saddle.
    not for me....

    go black tape, saddle, and tires...then it might have a chance, with proper staging etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gc3 View Post
    not for me....

    go black tape, saddle, and tires...then it might have a chance, with proper staging etc...
    His name is redtires...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lsberrios1 View Post
    .....As is sits now with a few thousand miles and in beast mode!

    Grade A for red/black thematic effort...
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    "I understand. I just don't care"
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    Quote Originally Posted by lsberrios1 View Post
    Per request of some guys here I took a better picture with the adjusted saddle and fixed chain. two pics

    the day she went home with me on november last year



    As is sits now with a few thousand miles and in beast mode!

    Have you thought about dropping spacers and getting a 6 deg stem? Obviously not something necessary, just making conversation about the bike. Those bar ends are pointed fairly far up also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Ryder View Post
    His name is redtires...
    how unfortunate for him...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Ryder View Post
    Just giving you a hard time! It this only place we get away with it.

    I use white Fizik tape on 3 of my bikes, I like the feel, & it cleans up easy/nicely.
    Have you thought about half white/red?
    I've thought about going black hoods and red tape but thought it could be way too much red. Might look into that mix you are talking about since I have never seen it. The fizik I have is that double tape which I like but might be going a little bit more minimalist next time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Ryder View Post
    I luv your bike!
    Matching cages is the only thing I can find, maybe black hoods, although I find the reds work in this case.
    I'm a Shimano fan boi, but SRAM Red would fit this build perfectly.
    Tell me about it! I've dreamt of putting RED on this bike but cant get rid of the shimano. Already did Quarq powermeter and I believe I went one step too south on front shifting quality. Not that there is anything wrong with SRAM but I like the buttery feeling of the shimanos.

    Quote Originally Posted by gc3 View Post
    Grade A for red/black thematic effort...
    Thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by bianchi10 View Post
    Have you thought about dropping spacers and getting a 6 deg stem? Obviously not something necessary, just making conversation about the bike. Those bar ends are pointed fairly far up also.
    To be honest I am not sure what a 6 degree stem is... I appologize for my noobness. I'm super picky when it comes to fitting and sizing. Just changing the saddle angle and depth was enough to give me a little heart attack but figured you guys were right. I'll have to look into those stems. Feel free to educate me please.

    Next up in changes are:

    Black Specialized Romin Pro saddle (get rid of those Ti rails for some nice and thick carbon ones)
    MAYBE: Di2 upgrade... not sure or 7900 Dura ace FD and RD.

    After those two things I was thinking maybe carbon stem and bars.
    Cat 6 going on PRO....

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    My guess is you have a 17deg stem which is flipped. You have a high stack and a stem that is very level. If you had a 6 degree stem it wouldn't be as flat. Therefore you could take out some spacers and have more of an angled stem which would put your bars in roughly the same position/height. Like i said, it is not something necessary, but aesthetically, I PERSONALLY prefer seeing a 6 deg. Since your top tube has such a slope, I think a 6deg would LOOK better in my very personal opinion. There are a lot of folks that love the look of a 17deg stem.

    If you look at my stem compared to yours, you can see that it has more of a rise and yours is more flat.

    Last edited by bianchi10; 10-19-13 at 07:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bianchi10 View Post
    Have you thought about dropping spacers and getting a 6 deg stem? Obviously not something necessary, just making conversation about the bike. Those bar ends are pointed fairly far up also.
    I was going to say the same thing. Having a -17º stem gives you an end result of 0º rise, but makes it look like you have a negative rise because of the steep angle of the top tube.

    And yeah, the ends of the drops look to be pointing up just a little bit, but that could be an illusion caused by the angle of the TT like the stem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lsberrios1 View Post

    Just for kicks and giggles, I PS your bike with a 3t ARX 6 degree stem, rotated your bars up to be level, made both cages black and a blacked out seat post.


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