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Old 03-15-14, 11:18 PM   #18326
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I don't know dcktr, but I knew a Helios was coming.
I posted, deleted, re-posted, but you commented in the meantime.
Alchemy Arion was just a little more stylish than I can get away with, but seeing the Arion at the NAHBS is what made me decide to have Alchemy build my next bike.
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I wanted an Arion before it even had that name, but the two things I don't like about it are:



the boxiness and solid triangle where the seat stays join the seat tube, and the way the seat tube just cuts off like a rectangle instead of a nice airfoil or kammtail shape. That can't be very aero, or at least it isn't in the eyeball wind tunnel. The seatpost looks like a rectangle which really bothers me. I know there's a round seat tube option, but it's an aero frame, and that just ain't right.





and the amount of space between the cutout seat tube and the rear tire. That also can't be very aero, and certainly isn't very attractive.

the matte black version also looks much better than this teal version too, IMO.

Other than those things, though, it's a nice bike.
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Alchemy Helios

Alchemy Helios, Sram Red, Enve, Ergot Wheels (tubeless), Dash Saddle
With a name like Dcktr and a bike with fancy parts like that, it makes me wonder if you're a urologist, lol.

in any event, I've been interested in a dash saddle/seatpost combo for the S5, but can't seem to find any good reliable info on the Dash saddle shapes. Do you have any?
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Old 03-16-14, 07:08 AM   #18329
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Correct...many Treks are hot. I always think a NOT vote should be accompanied by a photo of the judges bike...have a feeling the NOT would sting a bit less...
Nicely said, WHOOOSSHHH.
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Hot. I could live without the neon yellow branding, but still hot.
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I wanted an Arion before it even had that name, but the two things I don't like about it are:

the boxiness and solid triangle where the seat stays join the seat tube, and the way the seat tube just cuts off like a rectangle instead of a nice airfoil or kammtail shape. That can't be very aero, or at least it isn't in the eyeball wind tunnel. The seatpost looks like a rectangle which really bothers me. I know there's a round seat tube option, but it's an aero frame, and that just ain't right.





and the amount of space between the cutout seat tube and the rear tire. That also can't be very aero, and certainly isn't very attractive.

the matte black version also looks much better than this teal version too, IMO.

Other than those things, though, it's a nice bike.
A team mate has this Arion. I do not think it has a boxy seat tube like that one.



[edit] this sort of shows it a bit better, looks like a different seat post too...


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in any event, I've been interested in a dash saddle/seatpost combo for the S5, but can't seem to find any good reliable info on the Dash saddle shapes. Do you have any?
Plenty of pics on the Dashcycles website
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A team mate has this Arion. I do not think it has a boxy seat tube like that one.



[edit] this sort of shows it a bit better, looks like a different seat post too...

Interesting. . . Do you know how old his is? I guess the thing to do is to call alchemy, tell them what I don't like about it and see what they say, rather than just assume that what's on the website is they way they all are especially in a custom frame.
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Plenty of pics on the Dashcycles website
Gee, thanks! I hadn't thought of going to the Dash website!
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Interesting. . . Do you know how old his is? I guess the thing to do is to call alchemy, tell them what I don't like about it and see what they say, rather than just assume that what's on the website is they way they all are especially in a custom frame.

He's had it about a year.
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A team mate has this Arion. I do not think it has a boxy seat tube like that one.



[edit] this sort of shows it a bit better, looks like a different seat post too...

Fat and boxy like me guess that's why I have to give this one a hot!!
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Old 03-16-14, 01:09 PM   #18338
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It looks better outside in the natural night, but my photography skills suck and couldn't get a good picture. I just finished building it a few weeks ago, and I'm really enjoying it. So much lighter and a lot more stiff than my old 2004 Fuji Pro.

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My first ever. Road bike, 2014 Colnago Strada, picked it up yesterday rode 10 miles from shop to home and I absolutely love it, smooth,responsive,and sexy!, I already changed some stuff on it took white bar tape off and did Black lizard skin, and put a Fizik carbon rail saddle, and front Mavic Ksyrium SL.will post updated pics later.

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I wanted an Arion before it even had that name, but the two things I don't like about it are:



the boxiness and solid triangle where the seat stays join the seat tube, and the way the seat tube just cuts off like a rectangle instead of a nice airfoil or kammtail shape. That can't be very aero, or at least it isn't in the eyeball wind tunnel. The seatpost looks like a rectangle which really bothers me. I know there's a round seat tube option, but it's an aero frame, and that just ain't right.





and the amount of space between the cutout seat tube and the rear tire. That also can't be very aero, and certainly isn't very attractive.

the matte black version also looks much better than this teal version too, IMO.

Other than those things, though, it's a nice bike.
If it looks aero, it must be aero! in all seriousness..the shaping on the alchemy do not look very aero..
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It looks better outside in the natural night, but my photography skills suck and couldn't get a good picture. I just finished building it a few weeks ago, and I'm really enjoying it. So much lighter and a lot more stiff than my old 2004 Fuji Pro.

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If it looks aero, it must be aero! in all seriousness..the shaping on the alchemy do not look very aero..
Thats why I said the "eyeball wind tunnel", but seriously I cannot imagine that solid rear triangle or the rectangular seat tube and seat post are very aero. Aero or not, though, it's pretty ugly and doesn't appear very well thought out, IMHO.
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I'm glad you're happy and I think you have a nice bike, but this is the hot or not thread so I'm going to say it:

You've got one italian lady, and a Chinese lady with an Italian name, lol.
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The Bianchi could be hot without the big azz saddle bag

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Not with the hoods like that.
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Not with the hoods like that.
I thought it was some kind of special single speed racer thing....
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Not with the hoods like that.
Hoods are like that cause I use that bike to do heavy climbing and it's where it feels better for leverage,not sure if you ever tried climbing w single speed 48x16 gearing . Saddle bag is where all my tool go, pump, tube etc rather carry it on that then on my jersey pockets
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Hoods are like that cause I use that bike to do heavy climbing and it's where it feels better for leverage,not sure if you ever tried climbing w single speed 48x16 gearing . Saddle bag is where all my tool go, pump, tube etc rather carry it on that then on my jersey pockets
That's nice, but both look dumb.

So it goes in the Hot or Not thread.
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That's nice, but both look dumb.

So it goes in the Hot or Not thread.
PS - the yellow one is close to hot, but misses by a stack of spacers
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