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    Quote Originally Posted by SirHustlerEsq View Post
    The seat bag on the Giant looks like one of those horse insemination devices used for collection on male horses.
    Well, you know, I'm riding with some hard core cyclists and we pass a horse ranch, you never know when one of them might get the urge to jack a horse, least I could do is let you borrow my seat bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus90 View Post
    Well, you know, I'm riding with some hard core cyclists and we pass a horse ranch, you never know when one of them might get the urge to jack a horse, least I could do is let you borrow my seat bag.
    It's comforting to know that I'm not the only rider in tune with equine sensitivities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirHustlerEsq View Post
    It's comforting to know that I'm not the only rider in tune with equine sensitivities.
    Its all good, and if it were a thoroughbred you could sell it and help me finance all these changes you all suggest on my bike.
    Last edited by Gus90; 04-01-14 at 07:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bianchi10 View Post
    The Giant is "Defy'nitely" NOT hot

    See what I did there!!?? Sorry, Not
    It's against "the rules" to make that comment in the same post you do the thing you're commenting on.
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    getting banned from trollheim. does that mean you win?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus90 View Post
    Do most of you carry your repair gear in your jerseys rather than a small bag?
    My repair gear goes in a seat bag.
    Quote Originally Posted by truckstop View Post
    getting banned from trollheim. does that mean you win?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus90 View Post
    That's good advice thanks, next replacement of tape will be black (originally it was white and I hated it) and I'm definitely replacing the red cage with a matching white one. May wait on the saddle for a bit but when it's time it'll be black. Thanks for the advice, its very much appreciated.
    Quote Originally Posted by bianchi10 View Post
    Dont take this thread too seriously though Gus. The bike itself is nice. Really, its the stem angle and shifters for me. If this bike had a Flipped 6 degree and newer generation shifters, it would have a completely different look. As mentioned, swap out that red cage for a white one or black set. Not a fan of the red bartape either, I'd stick with black, but thats just me. This isn't something that I would normally say in this thread, but dont let this thread discourage you at all. If you like it, then ride it like its the hottest bike you have ever seen and be proud of it.

    Yeah, I meant "The" not They. Glad I saw that AFTER I wrote the above
    Listen to Bianchi10...if your bike rides fine and you enjoy it, don't feel the need to change things just to please some random people's opinions on the internet. You've been given a ton of advice to make your bike look better in a thread on a random bike message board, but in all reality, none of that matters. Just enjoy your bike. Of course, if you like to waste money on a hobby and are going for internet cred, then by all means, hang out here and you and your hard earned cash will soon part.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gus90 View Post
    Do most of you carry your repair gear in your jerseys rather than a small bag?
    I don't (it's too hot in the summer to carry that crap on my back), but I do take it off for photo purposes.

    If you haven't read "The Rules" yet, that's a good place to start to gain some bike snobiness...
    Velominati ? The Rules
    Hey guys, lets go play bikes!

    Strava

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    So other than the saddle, you all are suggesting something more like this....

    not mine but just did a quick search to see if I could find this bike with different parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus90 View Post
    So other than the saddle, you all are suggesting something more like this....

    not mine but just did a quick search to see if I could find this bike with different parts.
    Well clearly you wouldn't want to take the picture in front of a brown garage door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeshulEd View Post
    Listen to Bianchi10...if your bike rides fine and you enjoy it, don't feel the need to change things just to please some random people's opinions on the internet. You've been given a ton of advice to make your bike look better in a thread on a random bike message board, but in all reality, none of that matters. Just enjoy your bike. Of course, if you like to waste money on a hobby and are going for internet cred, then by all means, hang out here and you and your hard earned cash will soon part.



    I don't (it's too hot in the summer to carry that crap on my back), but I do take it off for photo purposes.

    If you haven't read "The Rules" yet, that's a good place to start to gain some bike snobiness...
    Velominati ? The Rules
    All true, but it's interesting to field opinions. I've been on the fence about the contrasting cages since I bought the bike last year anyway, plus now that shimano has updated brake shifters with internal cable routing, it's a change I wanted to make eventually. Beyond that, I'll keep it as it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zatopek View Post
    Hot. Remove that gargantuan headtube extender/spacer and slam the stem. Then, it would be molten.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Ryder View Post
    I believe Argons have a sort of "active suspension" built into the fork or head tube.
    (Makes the stack look long.)
    Not sure if this is that model, but I did read up on this feature on the Argon webpage a year or so ago.

    It's the Argon 18 3D Headtube. Basically it's a threaded insert that allows you to extend your headtube without having to use spacers, significantly increasing front end stiffness.





    I'd love to remove the insert, but my fit is what it is. If it weren't for shallow drop bars, I'd be forced to flip the stem for positive rise.

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    Generally, I take a pic of my bike brand new, or just built up, without bags, or Garmin installed, etc. It's only new once, and I like to catch the new before I ride the new off of it. Anyone that commented on your bike has already run the gauntlet here, and their bike has been run through the wringer. It's only my opinion, which you invited up by posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus90 View Post
    So other than the saddle, you all are suggesting something more like this....

    not mine but just did a quick search to see if I could find this bike with different parts.
    Better... but don't forget staging:

    White door, cranks horizontal, valve stems at 6. Just kidding... but seriously...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus90 View Post
    ...a new set of brake shifters that use the zipp bars internal routing may be a decent investment to clean it up...
    I don't think new STI's (just for the look) would be a 'decent investment'. Wear out those 5600 105 parts with saddle time instead. Cages and tape are your 'look' items; just ditch the red (like the other pic you posted).
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtrain View Post
    I don't think new STI's (just for the look) would be a 'decent investment'. Wear out those 5600 105 parts with saddle time instead. Cages and tape are your 'look' items; just ditch the red (like the other pic you posted).
    I actually have an LBS here who will give me a price of $180 on a set of shifters that are fresh off a new bike that someone put ultegra on, so that seems too good to pass up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadabout007 View Post
    spring refresh... new tape, brake cables, and old man saddle. Also added a crazy 11/28 cassette for an upcoming trip.
    Nice job, looks great.

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    Ask them if that's 180 otd w/install if your going that route. But I second not upgrading until you need to.

    I upgraded on my old bike, after about 200 miles you realize you just wasted about 200 or so dollars because the new shifters do nothing more than what the old shifters did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus90 View Post
    I actually have an LBS here who will give me a price of $180 on a set of shifters that are fresh off a new bike that someone put ultegra on, so that seems too good to pass up.
    Shimano STI Levers 105 Black 5700/5703 with cables, GEARSHIFT STI / ERGO

    Shimano 105 ST-5700 Cycling STI Levers Black Sports & Leisure | ProBikeKit.com

    That's just how much they cost (at least if you order them from the UK).

    Price will probably come down on 5700 too when 5800 gets released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus90 View Post
    I actually have an LBS here who will give me a price of $180 on a set of shifters that are fresh off a new bike that someone put ultegra on, so that seems too good to pass up.
    For 5700 105's? Yeah, that's a decent price installed. They're under $150 this week from Ribble. That's still hardly worth it to me for simply a cable-free look (but it's your money). Personally I'd put that $180 aside for a 5800 group next spring (your wheels are 11s compatible), and ride what you've got for now. Either way, you've been a good sport in this thread. Cheers!
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    If i upgrade the whole set, I'd likely pop for the ultegra, but at that point, I think I'd just want a whole new bike and look at something with di2. This model is actually quite heavy due to the aluminum steerer. Without the accessories it's 18.25 lbs including pedals.

    Figure, I'll run this bike into the ground for a few more years. The cable mess really does bug me so for a few bucks, cleaning it up is about as much as I'm going to do to it. That and replacing the red cage with a white one and going with black lizard skins. Got to learn to stick to the less is more mantra, it really is true. Looking at the other bikes on here it validates that.

    All the advice has been extremely helpful from everyone , it basically confirmed some of the things I think i didn't really love about the bike but couldn't admit it. Plus who doesn't enjoy a good ribbing now and again.
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    @Gus90 I would sell the bike and buy a new one. It seem to me cheaper to buy a new bike than to build up your current one. Cost of components and frame separate are ridiculous. I'd upgrade to Giant TCR Composite.

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    It's install AND new tape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus90 View Post
    All the advice has been extremely helpful from everyone , it basically confirmed some of the things I think i didn't really love about the bike but couldn't admit it. Plus who doesn't enjoy a good ribbing now and again.
    Just so it's clear, your bike working well for your body is a much bigger priority than any aesthetic considerations. Kind words from internet yahoos (myself included) isn't worth it if you have to lower you bars to the point that you can't ride your bike safely and comfortably for hours on end. By all means, work on getting to that point gradually (removing a spacer at a time, etc), but don't kill yourself if you never reach the flipped and slammed limit.
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
    They were getting crude, as juveniles are often inclined to do when given opportunity. :rolleyes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus90 View Post
    It's install AND new tape.
    That's a decent price if the 'cable mess' is bugging you that badly. You can probably sell you current STI's and recoup about half.

    I know what you mean about the current frame. My carbon bike is low to mid quality (on the heavy side with alloy steerer). I'm really interested in 6800...but not sure the frame justifies it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtrain View Post
    That's a decent price if the 'cable mess' is bugging you that badly. You can probably sell you current STI's and recoup about half.

    I know what you mean about the current frame. My carbon bike is low to mid quality (on the heavy side with alloy steerer). I'm really interested in 6800...but not sure the frame justifies it.
    I just don't have the desire to spend thousands on a new bike right now, seems like a few hundred to spruce it up a bit is worth it for the next couple of years. I'd not waste money upgrading my group either, not for this bike at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus90 View Post
    I just don't have the desire to spend thousands on a new bike right now, seems like a few hundred to spruce it up a bit is worth it for the next couple of years. I'd not waste money upgrading my group either, not for this bike at least.
    im im with you Gus90! I have a 07 caad 9 I went with 5700 shifters and 6800 brakes and love it. I wish I could drop a few grand. But no need rt now.

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