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Old 04-21-14, 10:19 AM   #19076
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Love both of @WHOOOSSHHH... bikes. HOT!!!
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Old 04-21-14, 10:19 AM   #19077
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This reminds me of the drunk guy arguing with a cop about getting a ticket. Not going to end well.
Me? He can ban me. I don't care. I would like him to point out where I insulted or mistreated anyone though.

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Thanks. I agree, it's how the whole package is presented.


I have an in-law who has steadily slammed his stem over the last two years and now his drops are lower than the tops of his wheels. It really is off putting in the looks department; he also never uses the drops so it probably is affecting his ride over the long haul.
im fine with slammed, but once the drops go below the top of the wheel, it looks funny to me. I can give a pass on the right vintage track bike though.

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Old 04-21-14, 10:22 AM   #19078
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So is a kinder gentler HrN better than no HrN? I personally think so, but can see how it's debatable. I don't really care to see the debate played out here over and over and over. Time for another bike pic...
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Old 04-21-14, 10:26 AM   #19079
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Don't get me wrong. If your mind holds certain standards that the bike doesn't meet, that's fine. Call it a "Not". And you can state why if you want. No one is suppressing you. But criticize respectfully and positively. If you can't do that, then you might want to keep it to yourself.
Seeing as no one has been disrespectful to the owner of the bike, yet we've still been treated to a 'not in my house' lecture, it certainly does seem that we're not able to express differing views.
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Old 04-21-14, 10:28 AM   #19080
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Seeing as no one has been disrespectful to the owner of the bike, yet we've still been treated to a 'not in my house' lecture, it certainly does seem that we're not able to express differing views.
Exactly.
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Old 04-21-14, 10:31 AM   #19081
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"Well, that bike sucks".

NO NO NO.

Watch how easily it can be transformed into something positive.

"Well, that bike positively sucks".

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Old 04-21-14, 10:50 AM   #19082
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Old 04-21-14, 10:54 AM   #19083
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This is just silly, all this hand-wringing, jeez.
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Old 04-21-14, 10:59 AM   #19084
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If it wasn't for a little more description than "hot" or "not" I wouldn't have been able to turn my bike into a freaking awesome thing. As long as it's constructive criticism, it's helpful. I, for one, appreciated it.

Anyway, here is the final result. That'll be my last post of it.

Woot! I was gone for a few days and missed the re-grand opening! Time to catch up. And a nice bike to do it with. HOT. Thanks Gus, for taking our advice. One thing though... your valves should be at 6 o'clock. One is at 5:58 and the other is at 6:04. You really should fix that next time...
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Old 04-21-14, 11:02 AM   #19085
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I get it now. Like...I'd love to have a custom-painted Pegoretti frame, they're quite beautiful...but I'd probably just mount it on the wall and never build it up or ride it...
Are you B10's alter ego???
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Old 04-21-14, 11:07 AM   #19086
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Not...

First, you gotta stage her correctly. Drive side, lose the bottles, and solid background, like a white garage door (though, I don't think your background is so crazy that we would ding your bike).

Lastly, it was not my intention to upset anyone, so in case I did, I shall leave you with this:

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Old 04-21-14, 11:11 AM   #19087
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Old 04-21-14, 11:15 AM   #19088
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I dig the pump and the frame colored fenders/chain guard.
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Old 04-21-14, 11:16 AM   #19089
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This reminds me of the drunk guy arguing with a cop about getting a ticket. Not going to end well.
The one change I would make here is that you issue a not kindly post a picture of your bike....
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Old 04-21-14, 11:19 AM   #19090
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Warm but not quite hot. It's only my opinion, but I think it would look killer with a brown leather saddle, brown grips, tan sidewall tires, and a brass bell. The current build is sensible, and I wouldn't be afraid to ride it.

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The one change I would make here is that you issue a not kindly post a picture of your bike....
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Old 04-21-14, 11:20 AM   #19092
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Here's a better picture of how it is now.........
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Sorry for the link.......this forum won't let me post pics now......it just gives me an error.....
Not... I like the frame, but the rest of the setup is killing it for me. My suggestions: stem has to go, white tape, white saddle, white cages and lose those tires. Saw your follow up post about the tires, and that's reasonable. Don't want to waste money. But aesthetically, the aforementioned suggestions would probably give this a hot in my bike. Also, next time, move the bike 6 feet to the right and take the pic in front of the garage door.

And in case I have offended, anyone, I leave you with this:

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I'm a little offended, but mostly scared, by the purple dinosaur.
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Old 04-21-14, 11:31 AM   #19095
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How long have you had this one? I don't think that I've ever seen it - very nice, even with the Reynold's spermies.
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Warm but not quite hot. It's only my opinion, but I think it would look killer with a brown leather saddle, brown grips, tan sidewall tires, and a brass bell. The current build is sensible, and I wouldn't be afraid to ride it.
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Warm.
...the bell, which easily weighs half a pound in and of itself, is one of those double domed ones,
and they are tuned differently to chime in harmonious unison. I suspect I would score higher were
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You win. I retract my bell statement.
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Old 04-21-14, 11:49 AM   #19099
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How long have you had this one? I don't think that I've ever seen it - very nice, even with the Reynold's spermies.
That ol thing? Thanks WhyFi. It's 5 years old, or so. Many many Rando miles, and races, under it's belt. I think it's still a great crit bike, though I used it for the crappy races that are part dirt we have here, as well.
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