marin1

Hey, I own two Cervelos and I agree with you.
Anyways I would have had to order a Saxo Bank sticker for next year

marin1

Not saying that Cervelos make a difference, but if Saxo Bank doesn't do as welll next year it looks good for them.

photonick

I mean, who cares in reality, I'll still be trying out the Cervelo SLT next spring to potentially buy, but if it fits like crap I'm not going to get it just because Fabian rides it. I mean honestly anyone who thinks team CSC's performance has been heavily related to Cervelo's aerodynamic bikes is beyond a sucker.

Sometimes I think Cervelo over-embraces their nerdery at times, assuming that the entire bike community are as big tech nerds as they are. It sure ain't Fabian's Cervelo that blows peoples mind when he solo's away for a win in a finishing sprint.

stoked1

Its a message board not a dissertation so if doing so will help to soothe your own insecurities and short comings have at it.

photonick

Yah man, pointing out spelling errors definitely soothes my insecurities! Who am I to expect someone to spell a countries name right when they're questioning the quality of their export.

marin1

It's on, like Donkey Kong!

photonick

Oh, and calling out Cervelo owners about the ulterior motives to their purchases says nothing about your own insecurities.

Surferbruce

think about how many team have been sponsored by colnago or pinarello. who cares what team (if any) rides cervelo, and who cares what bikes csc rides.

stoked1

Not quality in a negative light, just showing that without the fame and reputation gained by csc they are just another small company selling bikes imported from china and taiwan. The allure is gone.

Pinyon

I heard that the other guy said something about your mother...

photonick

Oh, ok that's different, sorry your first post just came off way different.

mrbubbles

Most Italian bike companies' marketing suck, it leaves almost nothing to be desire besides paint scheme and heritage that doesn't apply to everyone's taste. Same can be said of French bike companies as well.

Trek, Cannondale, Cervelo, and Specialized does the koolaid job very well.

whiplashsmile

It sounds to me like Team CSC may have upped the ante for sponsors. Maybe Cervelo couldn't financially afford to sponsor them after the TDF win. Let's face it Cervelo doesn't exactly have pockets as deep as say Specialized or Trek. Bidness is bidness as they say.

Surferbruce

it gives me something to be desire
i'd take a long list of italian and french frames before any specialized, cannondale, cervelo, or trek.

Chuckie

I didn't buy my Cervelo because of what team rides them. There aren't too many of them where I live, either. I was drawn to my LBS because I did some (nerdy) research and read a bunch of reviews, and then test rode the bike I would eventually own. I could care less where it's made or how many Freds in other cities are seen riding them....I absolutely love my Cervelo RS, and it's done one hell of a job helping to get me back into a sport I left in pain 18 years ago.

As for the Saxo-Cervelo split, it sounds to me more like it was Riis' call and not Cervelo's (ie. unilateral). I'm sure there's a lot behind the scenes that we don't know as well.

umd

My understanding is that it was the other way around, that Specialized basically paid off CSC/SaxoBank/Whatever to switch, just like they did with QuickStep and Time.

dmb2786

OH SNAP! burn for real. historical

photonick

Well all I know is that if/when I get my Cervelo the firs thing I'd be peeling off is the CSC stickers and Fabian sticker...or whatever winds up being on there. I'm not celebrating anyone elses victories with my pocket book.

Surferbruce

but see now it's a classic. ripping off the csc stickers would be criminal.

photonick

lol

there's nothing classic about my bikes, there's too much blood, mud, snot, piss, and spit on them to be classic. They're just big piles of tubes, gears, and bolts to me.

photonick

It's kinda funny I never wear clothing with logos, I have all my logos on my cameras taped up, and my musicial equipment for the most part has no logos...yet I love the logos on bikes...don't get it.

rocoach

But surely, by the time you've gotten your Cervelo, you would already have paid for all the stickers anyway?

They won't give you money back if you take the stickers off. It doesn't work that way (although it should!).

brianappleby

Why is everybody so sure that Cervelo dropped Riis? I was under the impression that Riis dropped Cervelo. Anyway, the stickers are made to come off.

DrPete 

Ever ridden one? The allure is still there with mine...

DrPete 

And most of those Italian and French frames would be made in Taiwan or China, just like the ones you dislike. Especially if you're talking carbon fiber models.