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lord1e 08-14-09 12:55 AM

hey im in the market for a cheap single/fixed but dont know anything about road bikes and need some help ,good deal?? http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/1318972942.html

genesis5521 08-14-09 06:41 PM

Question from a Newbie
 
I'm 64 years old. I've had a pretty nice Gary Fisher Mountain bike (Hoo Koo E Koo) for over 10 years. I really like it. Most years I just played around on the fire roads with it. This year I started riding it on the road (cause the deer flies were eating me alive on the trails). I just put 80 PSI mountain bike slicks on it.
Three weeks ago I started out with 10 mile road rides (averaging 13 MPH) and thought I was doing pretty good. So I went to 20 mile rides (still averaging 13 MPH). Now I'm up to 40 mile road rides every other day (still at 13 MPH average). I just can seem to get past that 13 MPH average. I go for 20 miles straight (no stops). Then I take a half hour (3 cigarette) break, and do the next 20 miles none stop. 40 miles takes me just over 3 hours, and I'm hump'n (and I mean hump'n) the whole time at the fastest rate I can sustain (13 MPH average). My body still isn't use to this "abuse". This is all on flat level roads. No hills. No ups or downs. I'm 64 years old, 5'10, 200 pounds, 38 waist. One chart I found said that I'm burning 885 calories an hour. That's 2655 calories burned over 3 hours. That's gotta be a good thing ~ right. I'd like to do a century 100 mile ride, but I think my average MPH would drop to about 12 MPH over 100 miles. I was checking out some road bikes. One store told me that if I'm averaging 13 MPH with a mountain bike, I should be able to average 16 to 18 MPH with a road bike. I just don't think that's possible given my age and level of physical condition. On a physical condition scale from 1 (lowest) to 10 I'd rate myself a 6 (maybe just slightly above average for my age) only because I do 40 mile, 3 hour, sustained work-outs. And much of that is just by sheer determination, and not because I'm in such great shape. If I'm averaging 13 MPH on my mountain bike on a 40 mile (3 hour) workout, what's a realistic average MPH if I got a road bike. Lets be realistic. Given the same level of effort, I don't think it would go up at all. What do you guys think.

Don <><
PS: Hey I just noticed that I'm a Junior Member now. I joined this forum just 2 weeks ago as a "Newbie". Thanks for the "promotion".

genesis5521 08-14-09 07:40 PM

Hey peddlinski

The Defy 3 is a nice bike. My local dealer has a 2008 model for $594. It was rated as a "Buyers Guide Thumbs Up" for 2009 here: http://www.bicycling.com/gear/detail...2137-0,00.html

To me, all of these entry level bikes in this price range seem about the same. Everybody talks about "components". I for one, am not a sophisticated enough rider to notice the difference. It doesn't matter that much which entry level bike you get. Find a good shop where they treat you really well, buy a bike, then ride the heck out of it. (Wave to me as you pass me by!)

dsx724 08-17-09 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by genesis5521 (Post 9488676)
I'm 64 years old. I've had a pretty nice Gary Fisher Mountain bike (Hoo Koo E Koo) for over 10 years. I really like it. Most years I just played around on the fire roads with it. This year I started riding it on the road (cause the deer flies were eating me alive on the trails). I just put 80 PSI mountain bike slicks on it.
Three weeks ago I started out with 10 mile road rides (averaging 13 MPH) and thought I was doing pretty good. So I went to 20 mile rides (still averaging 13 MPH). Now I'm up to 40 mile road rides every other day (still at 13 MPH average). I just can seem to get past that 13 MPH average. I go for 20 miles straight (no stops). Then I take a half hour (3 cigarette) break, and do the next 20 miles none stop. 40 miles takes me just over 3 hours, and I'm hump'n (and I mean hump'n) the whole time at the fastest rate I can sustain (13 MPH average). My body still isn't use to this "abuse". This is all on flat level roads. No hills. No ups or downs. I'm 64 years old, 5'10, 200 pounds, 38 waist. One chart I found said that I'm burning 885 calories an hour. That's 2655 calories burned over 3 hours. That's gotta be a good thing ~ right. I'd like to do a century 100 mile ride, but I think my average MPH would drop to about 12 MPH over 100 miles. I was checking out some road bikes. One store told me that if I'm averaging 13 MPH with a mountain bike, I should be able to average 16 to 18 MPH with a road bike. I just don't think that's possible given my age and level of physical condition. On a physical condition scale from 1 (lowest) to 10 I'd rate myself a 6 (maybe just slightly above average for my age) only because I do 40 mile, 3 hour, sustained work-outs. And much of that is just by sheer determination, and not because I'm in such great shape. If I'm averaging 13 MPH on my mountain bike on a 40 mile (3 hour) workout, what's a realistic average MPH if I got a road bike. Lets be realistic. Given the same level of effort, I don't think it would go up at all. What do you guys think.

Don <><
PS: Hey I just noticed that I'm a Junior Member now. I joined this forum just 2 weeks ago as a "Newbie". Thanks for the "promotion".

Gotta give you an A for effort. I use to ride a Walmart Schwinn S30 and it was 32lb. I averaged around 12MPH for an hour at most. When I got an 22lb aluminum roadie, I was biking 16MPH because road bikes make you try harder to catch up with other roadies and going faster was sooo cool. When I finally switched to my latest bike with good gear switching, I can do a consistent 20MPH because I learned to bike at a much higher cadence. I'm 5'8 and 185lb with a 34 waist and 22 y/o. If I had nerves of steel, I can probably do 23MPH for an hour. I can dance past some of my lighter friends on flat land but get left in the dust on hills. I think you should be able to do 16-18 with a good bike.

ElJamoquio 08-17-09 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by genesis5521 (Post 9488676)
I'm 64 years old. I've had a pretty nice Gary Fisher Mountain bike (Hoo Koo E Koo) for over 10 years. I really like it. Most years I just played around on the fire roads with it. This year I started riding it on the road (cause the deer flies were eating me alive on the trails). I just put 80 PSI mountain bike slicks on it.
Three weeks ago I started out with 10 mile road rides (averaging 13 MPH) and thought I was doing pretty good. So I went to 20 mile rides (still averaging 13 MPH). Now I'm up to 40 mile road rides every other day (still at 13 MPH average). I just can seem to get past that 13 MPH average. I go for 20 miles straight (no stops). Then I take a half hour (3 cigarette) break, and do the next 20 miles none stop. 40 miles takes me just over 3 hours, and I'm hump'n (and I mean hump'n) the whole time at the fastest rate I can sustain (13 MPH average). My body still isn't use to this "abuse". This is all on flat level roads. No hills. No ups or downs. I'm 64 years old, 5'10, 200 pounds, 38 waist. One chart I found said that I'm burning 885 calories an hour. That's 2655 calories burned over 3 hours. That's gotta be a good thing ~ right. I'd like to do a century 100 mile ride, but I think my average MPH would drop to about 12 MPH over 100 miles. I was checking out some road bikes. One store told me that if I'm averaging 13 MPH with a mountain bike, I should be able to average 16 to 18 MPH with a road bike. I just don't think that's possible given my age and level of physical condition. On a physical condition scale from 1 (lowest) to 10 I'd rate myself a 6 (maybe just slightly above average for my age) only because I do 40 mile, 3 hour, sustained work-outs. And much of that is just by sheer determination, and not because I'm in such great shape. If I'm averaging 13 MPH on my mountain bike on a 40 mile (3 hour) workout, what's a realistic average MPH if I got a road bike. Lets be realistic. Given the same level of effort, I don't think it would go up at all. What do you guys think.

Don <><
PS: Hey I just noticed that I'm a Junior Member now. I joined this forum just 2 weeks ago as a "Newbie". Thanks for the "promotion".

I gained about 3 MPH, from ~16 to ~19, going from MTB to road. Gains at lower speeds would be less, so probably 2 MPH is realistic.

weavers 08-21-09 08:57 AM

Question. why arn't there deep dish aluminum wheels? the deepest i have seen is soul 4.0. 41mm. the only thing above 50mm is carbon. what is the reason for this? is it the extra weight or is aluminum just not as strong in a deep rim wheel.

mononokifool 08-24-09 09:52 PM

So i have just recently started to ride a bike again ever since I got my License to drive, I bought an older schwinn world road bike just to see how I like it. So far I have been enjoying it, I go out for 8-10 mile rides at a time about 4 times a week. I would really like to get better at riding and maybe in a month or so get an entry level road bike. What would you recommend to a person just starting out to do as far as training and purchases?

10 Wheels 08-24-09 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mononokifool (Post 9551215)
So i have just recently started to ride a bike again ever since I got my License to drive, I bought an older schwinn world road bike just to see how I like it. So far I have been enjoying it, I go out for 8-10 mile rides at a time about 4 times a week. I would really like to get better at riding and maybe in a month or so get an entry level road bike. What would you recommend to a person just starting out to do as far as training and purchases?

Ride the schwwin 1,000 miles before you try something else.
Your legs should be in better shape by then.

d00t 08-24-09 10:26 PM

Just bought my first road bike a week ago! It's a early 90's Cannondale 3.0. I don't know the exact model as the frame was repainted (in the Black/White/Blue of the Centerium). I have a feeling it's a R400 or Centerium as it has the RX100 component set, but it's 14 speed so I dunno!

I've already got the "mod bug" so to speak. I'm looking to lighten it some more.. already pretty light. Plus I like to upgrade stuff! A friend gave me his old Shimano 600 component set when he upgraded to Dura Ace. Including the 8 speed rear sprocket (sorry don't know real term :P ). I'm getting the bottom bracket changed out tomorrow to accept the 600 cranks because the stock RX100 crank sheered off on my first ride.

Anyways.. I'm looking to upgrade the seat post and fork/headset. But don't know what kind of fork to get.. I'm SUPER noob to biking at this "level" (even if it's super noob :) ).

Thanks!

Aaron

Caad 8 09-13-09 02:33 AM

Hello, I am 19 years old and I live in California, my father was an avid road cyclist, toured France, Portugal, Austria and Germany, Belgium etc in the 70's. Raced in the "Rund am den Bodensee". He rode a 70's motobecane 9spd. I eventually used that bike to start road cycling. The shifters were on the down tube, so I wanted something more modern.

A couple years ago I got my own bike, Cannondale Caad 8, 9 spd, 60 cm for $800. Everything ultegra except for the brakes. I upgraded those to ultegra sl a little while ago. I thought I was the next lance and within 6 months put 1,000 miles on it. I joined a team "Team Velosport". Really loved cycling.

Unfortunately I got quadriceps-tendinitis in my knee that wouldn't go away. We thought one cause might be my lbs fitted my seat too high and I was hyper extending my knee. Took a year off from cycling but continued to have knee problems. I had PRP done (Platelet Rich Plasma) and now my knee is healing. Slowly getting it back into shape.

Hopefully once my knee is completely healed I want to race in a collegiate cycling team.

becca513 09-28-09 02:24 PM

Please read my new thread (Help me decide what bike to buy) and give me any advice if you can! Thanks!

Darth_Firebolt 09-28-09 06:02 PM

hey tom, can you clean up your original post? quite a few of the links are 404-ing.
thanks.

RowOrBike 10-10-09 08:20 AM

I want to buy a 2008 Felt-85, used preferably. The only problem is I can't find them anywhere on the internet. Does anyone know where I can go to find a 2008? Or is it just luck at my LBS?

10 Wheels 10-10-09 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RowOrBike (Post 9832881)
I want to buy a 2008 Felt-85, used preferably. The only problem is I can't find them anywhere on the internet. Does anyone know where I can go to find a 2008? Or is it just luck at my LBS?

http://www.usfreeads.com/1478912-cls.html

10 Wheels 10-10-09 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RowOrBike (Post 9832881)
I want to buy a 2008 Felt-85, used preferably. The only problem is I can't find them anywhere on the internet. Does anyone know where I can go to find a 2008? Or is it just luck at my LBS?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2008-Felt-F85-F-...:B:SRCH:US:101

smith29 10-12-09 09:26 AM

I wasn't sure if I should make a new thread for a bike suggestion, so I just posted here.

I have been cycling for a good amount of time on my dads old bike, but am looking to upgrade. I have roughly $ 1100 +/- , but do not know cycling brands very well.

Could anyone point me in the right direction?
Thanks

chipcom 10-12-09 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smith29 (Post 9842727)
I wasn't sure if I should make a new thread for a bike suggestion, so I just posted here.

I have been cycling for a good amount of time on my dads old bike, but am looking to upgrade. I have roughly $ 1100 +/- , but do not know cycling brands very well.

Could anyone point me in the right direction?
Thanks

Your local bike shops would be a good start. Brands are all pretty much the same...find the bike you like that fits you and your budget the best.

Sgt C USMC 10-16-09 10:38 AM

Some Newbie questions
 
Morning all, I recently picked up a 2005 Scattante CFR Team off of CL. Full Ultegra grouping (6600) including the triple crankset (for less than $600!!) , but some really crappy control surfaces (saddle, wheels, pedals, stem, handlebar) all made by some company called Supergo (Okay the saddle was made by Selle, but man that thing was uncomfortable. I swapped it out for a Specialized Alias.) I don't know much about them , except that they're heavy, uncomfortable, and I keep thinking I'm going to taco the wheel at any moment (which is not a reassuring feeling when you're flying down the mountains of Julian)

Now, here's the thing . I want to upgrade, but not so much that the frame becomes the weakpoint in the chain. (I've already got a Kestrel SL 900 /SRAM red (maybe Campy if the performance increases and weight decreases outweigh the cost increase) setup I'm building up, and that'll get high class CF wheels and a full CF headset and pedals.) so I don't need to really strip weight , I just want something that will ride smoothly, and get me good bang for my buck so I can ride with my wife. The Kestrel will be for races and group rides.

So here's what I'm considering - and I don't know enough about the alternatives to get outside of the mainstream manufacturers

Headset: Easton EC90 TKO round handlebars with Easton EC90 stem (total package less than $150 online!!)
Pedals: Time RXS
Seat Post: Easton EC70 CNT
And I MIGHT change the forks out for a set of Easton EC90s.
Wheels: (Here's the dilemma) Mavic Krysium Equipes, Fulcrum racings 5s, or Easton EA70 Sls. All of these can be had for around $500 and change. (I also have pro I know who's willing to part with a pair of EA90 Aeros for 500 with a dura-ace cassette that he used for training last season, but I'm not so sure about buying second hand wheels)

So what do you think ? What would you recommend ? Also , does anyone know what the 2005 CFR BB is ? I would think it's Shimano , but without removing the crankset, I wouldn't know for sure.

garysol1 10-16-09 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt C USMC (Post 9869356)
So here's what I'm considering - and I don't know enough about the alternatives to get outside of the mainstream manufacturers

Headset: Easton EC90 TKO round handlebars with Easton EC90 stem (total package less than $150 online!!)

fine....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt C USMC (Post 9869356)
Pedals: Time RXS

fine.....look at Keo's and Shimano SPD' L as well

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt C USMC (Post 9869356)
Seat Post: Easton EC70 CNT

ok, I much prefer the Thomson Elite though

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt C USMC (Post 9869356)
And I MIGHT change the forks out for a set of Easton EC90s.

why?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt C USMC (Post 9869356)
Wheels: (Here's the dilemma) Mavic Krysium Equipes, Fulcrum racings 5s, or Easton EA70 Sls. All of these can be had for around $500 and change. (I also have pro I know who's willing to part with a pair of EA90 Aeros for 500 with a dura-ace cassette that he used for training last season, but I'm not so sure about buying second hand wheels)

Second hand wheels are fine as long as you get a reputable wheel builder to check them out to make sure spoke tension is ok and they are straight. Any of the wheels you mentioned are a good solid choice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt C USMC (Post 9869356)
So what do you think ? What would you recommend ? Also , does anyone know what the 2005 CFR BB is ? I would think it's Shimano , but without removing the crankset, I wouldn't know for sure.

BB will be a english threaded bb. As to the brand Performance used in the CFR is anyones guess. Replacement BB's are cheap though

PatCodd 10-28-09 08:45 PM

Hi I am new to biking, I recently bought a Shwinn Le Tour GSX and am interested in getting shoes/pedals. I don't really have a ton of money to spend and would like a setup that will allow for some adjustment in order to help with my comfort on the bike. Any suggestions for a good entry level setup? Thanks

tagaproject6 10-28-09 10:03 PM

Where did you buy the Schwinn? What is currently wrong with it and have you gotten a proper fit on the bike?

PatCodd 10-29-09 08:32 AM

I bought the bike at a reputable shop and it was sized correctly for me. However I moved about 6 to 7 hours away from that shop within 2 weeks of buying the bike. I have very wide size 12 feet and riding with sneakers isn't doing me any favors as my shoes bump when I ride.

rollin 10-29-09 09:20 AM

PatCodd welcome

I would suggest shimano 105 level pedals and shoes. They are not the cheapest out there but these are practically bomb proof and will last for years. Th shoes should be relatively good value too. Make sure you try the shoes on. The pedals can be found online or ebay.

good luck.

PatCodd 10-29-09 09:36 AM

Rollin,
Thanks for the info. What would be a good set of shoes to use with these pedals? I don't see 105 shoes. The pedals look to be a good price fit for me.

garysol1 10-29-09 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatCodd (Post 9947303)
Rollin,
Thanks for the info. What would be a good set of shoes to use with these pedals? I don't see 105 shoes. The pedals look to be a good price fit for me.

Any ROAD shoe will work fine with these pedals. I am a fan of Specialized branded shoes personally. You really need to find a local shop to work with in order to find the proper size shoe and to be sure the cleats are installed properly.


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