How To Tell Campy UT English Cups From Italian
10-22-08, 03:45 PM
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How To Tell Campy UT English Cups From Italian
I purchased two Campagnolo UT bottom bracket cup sets, one claiming to be Italian and one claiming to be English. When they arrived, they have virtually identical markings on the boxes and I'm having trouble telling them apart. On the parts themselves, they both have identical thread markings above the threads, they both say: 1.370" x 24tpi. On both boxes, the labels say "OC7-REG RECORD external BB cups-BSC". Both also have a code that says 0112661. The only difference is the numerical sequence on the bar code. One says "8 032758 979637" and the other box bar code reads ""8 033148 851687"
How can I tell if I have two of the same part or one English and one Italian? Any help you can provide will be repaid with good Karma in another lifetime...
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How can I tell if I have two of the same part or one English and one Italian? Any help you can provide will be repaid with good Karma in another lifetime...
Thanks!
10-22-08, 04:02 PM
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you should email, or call, campy and ask them. tell them the bar code and they should be able to look it up for you.
or get out a measuing tape. Italian has a 70mm wide bottom-bracket shell, and English is 68mm.
or get out a measuing tape. Italian has a 70mm wide bottom-bracket shell, and English is 68mm.
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In addition to the 68 vs 70 mm. difference noted above the Italian BB will be right hand threaded on both halves while the English one with have a reverse (left hand) threading on the drive side cup. Just be carefull so you don't make a big mess by crossthreading them into the wrong frame...
10-22-08, 04:33 PM
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if it says 1.37x24tpi then it's english
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No Frames Yet
Thanks so much for your replies. Actually, I purchased my groupset components first and have yet to purchase a frame, so no tests on the bottom bracket (either measuring width or thread direction) are possible to help identify the cups. Does anyone have any other ideas how to tell them apart in the absence of a frame? I have digital micrometers that I can use to take measurements of the cups themselves if that would help...
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Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
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Thanks To All
Thanks to all for your kind replies, and especially thank you for the Sheldon Brown link which answered my question definitively. I love this site!!
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Thanks so much for your replies. Actually, I purchased my groupset components first and have yet to purchase a frame, so no tests on the bottom bracket (either measuring width or thread direction) are possible to help identify the cups. Does anyone have any other ideas how to tell them apart in the absence of a frame? I have digital micrometers that I can use to take measurements of the cups themselves if that would help...
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