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Old 11-25-08, 02:58 PM
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Stereotypes save me time.
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Redneck repellent. Effective range ~30m on a clear day.
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OOOOO doggies!

I have Elmer's Glue colored skin and I can NOT related to this discussion.

When I ride, pickups pull over for me, truckers blow kisses, and pit bulls roll over and show me their bellies.

I feel sorry for the rest of y'all.
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I guess a fair question is which jersey would you least want to wear in Redneckville?
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Redneck repellent. Effective range ~30m on a clear day.
You know, you sir, are a genius.
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Old 11-25-08, 03:26 PM
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Do they make one with the rebel flag too?
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Twice Malibu rednecks tried to run me over.One was driving red Ferrari Dino ,another was in black 6class BMW.Both times on empty canyon road.Still not bad for 25 years on local roads.
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Originally Posted by FlashBazbo
Actually, you're both wrong.

The ORIGINAL rednecks were radical unionists from Pennsylvania. They actually took up arms in order to unionize various businesses through threats of violence and extortion. In a couple of cases, they organized their forces against the government and actually took over a few counties for a time.
If you want to get really technical, rednecks were originally The Solemn League and Covenant which rejected the Church of England and wanted all of Scotland to be Protestant. They wore red scarfs in public to show their position/support. That was during the first English Civil war in the 1630s.

Many Ulster-Scots and Lowland Scots emigrated to Georgia and the Carolinas in the 17th and 18th century. Probably most English of that time knew the term redneck, and Scots emigrating to the south during the time were "encouraged" to move into the mountains. So by the time the US was a country, most Georgians and SC and NC dwellers knew Rednecks lived in the mountains.

There were also union miners in West Virginia that wore red bandannas around their necks to signify their solidarity.
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Originally Posted by triplebutted
Try going from Bay Ridge to Brooklyn Bridge via 4th Ave.
Nearly the entire stretch of 4th Ave is a part of my daily loop. What's your point man from SoCal?
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I live in Southern California and it isn't the Rednecks that scare me, it is the soccer moms in their big SUVs or the rich old man in his $100,000 Mercedes or BMW. Some of them tend to have the attitude that they own the road and that bicyles should be on the sidewalk.

Motorist need to be educated and that cyclist are allowed to use the roads too and that they have rights.
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Originally Posted by Durward_Kirby
You know, you sir, are a genius.
Haha, thank you.
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Originally Posted by dcbikeguy
Incorrect. Richmond.
Spend some time in the rural counties between Richmond and Fredricksburg and then tell me they are not southern.

Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
You guys know that a "redneck" is a person who works outdoors for a living, usually as a farmer, right? The term "redneck" derives from the continual sunburn seen on the back of the neck of farmers before the advent of the fully enclosed canopy on tractors.
Nope.

Originally Posted by big john
I agree with you about farmers. When we toured through farmland, we were invited to stay at farmers homes, offered help on the road, and given cold drinks by farm people.
Of course. But farmers usually aren't rednecks.

Originally Posted by FlashBazbo
Actually, you're both wrong.

The ORIGINAL rednecks were radical unionists from Pennsylvania. They actually took up arms in order to unionize various businesses through threats of violence and extortion. In a couple of cases, they organized their forces against the government and actually took over a few counties for a time.
Closer, but you're confusing the Molly Maguires with the West Virginia miners who were a possible source for the term.

Originally Posted by FlashBazbo
The MODERN term "redneck" is itself a racist epithet meant to demean any white person of a lower socio-economic status or class.
It's not a racial epithet. It's a lifestyle choice.

Originally Posted by khatfull
I lived in KY for 26 years and I assure you it was genuine. Kentuckians are the recipients of such a bad stereotype. When I moved here to MN I heard about this "thing" called "Minnesota Nice". B****HIT. People in KY were much nicer, much more gracious, much more friendly.
"Nice" and "friendly" are two very different concepts.

Originally Posted by SP-rocket
Twice Malibu rednecks tried to run me over.One was driving red Ferrari Dino ,another was in black 6class BMW.Both times on empty canyon road.Still not bad for 25 years on local roads.
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Rednecks don't drive schnitzel, spaghetti or rice.

Originally Posted by scorpio516
If you want to get really technical, rednecks were originally The Solemn League and Covenant which rejected the Church of England and wanted all of Scotland to be Protestant. They wore red scarfs in public to show their position/support. That was during the first English Civil war in the 1630s.

Many Ulster-Scots and Lowland Scots emigrated to Georgia and the Carolinas in the 17th and 18th century. Probably most English of that time knew the term redneck, and Scots emigrating to the south during the time were "encouraged" to move into the mountains. So by the time the US was a country, most Georgians and SC and NC dwellers knew Rednecks lived in the mountains.

There were also union miners in West Virginia that wore red bandannas around their necks to signify their solidarity.
Well you got the academic theories down.
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Old 11-25-08, 05:24 PM
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I swear to everything holy, inbreeding makes some freaking superhuman children. My bro's gf is "country" and while she's not bad, her family is like the definition of trailer trash. I hated every minute of them when I visited my bro in September.
Not to mention them being stupid, racist and Limbaughites.
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
That's an opinion without a statistically supported foundation.
As was the statement I was rebutting. This is BF after all - get with the program.

Originally Posted by halfspeed
Spend some time in the rural counties between Richmond and Fredricksburg and then tell me they are not southern.
Spend some time in rural counties from Richmond to Maine - same answer. Richmond is where the south ends. End of discussion.
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Originally Posted by dcbikeguy
Spend some time in rural counties from Richmond to Maine - same answer. Richmond is where the south ends. End of discussion.
I'll allow you your delusions.
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Originally Posted by SwimBike
I get the same thing in Northern New York
There's a town in upstate New York in the Adirondacks called Severence. It made me think of deliverance when I went there.
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Originally Posted by halfspeed
You know what? You're right. I really have no idea what I'm talking about. There are rednecks all over the country, all over the world in fact, but The South - I mean, The South, really does end at Richmond. Let's move on from this, OK DC?
Hey, no problem buddy. You're a class act.
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Aaahhhhh, white people.
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Originally Posted by dcbikeguy
Hey, no problem buddy. You're a class act.
Can't argue with that "logic".
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There are plenty of jerks around here, too. My skin doesn't look like glue, but I am a white guy, and I've had all manner of crap thrown at me over the years, and so have many of my friends, even women.
The worst places I've toured are Kentucky and Missouri, but the worst place to ride is Santa Clarita.

The only constant seems to be the throwers/yellers are all young white males, including the a-hole who intentionaly rammed my friend into a parked car.
heh. I live in Santa Clarita and my original comment was about Santa Clarita. I've logged 3,000 miles here and never had a problem with any of the local rednecks.

Do you wear a USSR jersey or anything?
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Originally Posted by Sonoma76
heh. I live in Santa Clarita and my original comment was about Santa Clarita. I've logged 3,000 miles here and never had a problem with any of the local rednecks.

Do you wear a USSR jersey or anything?
No, I usually wear a plain jersey. Actually, the last few times I've ridden out there it wasn't bad. I'm in the SFVBC, we have 500 members, and most of them will agree that SC is to be avoided. High speed traffic, stressed out drivers, and a lot of macho bullies running around. I lived in Saugus for 3 years and my wife called it "dick truck land".
I've been riding around here for more than 23 years, and I realize there are jerks everywhere, but I still dread going through Santa Clarita.
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Boy, I hate to divert this discussion from mindless racist stereotypes, but . . .

having lived and ridden, at some time or another, in most parts of the country, I think there are some patterns to be found. They don't depend on race or culture at all -- and a lot of it depends on how cyclists behave.

1. In areas where cycling is a high-profile sport and receives positive press, people seem extremely considerate of cyclists. (Southern middle Tennessee and northern Georgia have negative racial and cultural stereotypes per this board but, generally, they have very cyclist-friendly drivers on some roads where it would be easy to get frustrated.)

2. In areas where cyclists have a reputation for being jerks (flipping the bird, yelling, throwing things, intentionally holding up traffic), more drivers tend to be jerks (flipping the bird, yelling, throwing things, intentionally endangering cyclists). That shouldn't surprise anybody.

IMLTHO, cyclists (in general) have more to do with how we're treated than we like to think. If cyclists in your area act like anusses, you can expect to be greeted by unfriendly motorists. That shouldn't surprise anyone. People everywhere tend to treat others the way they are treated.

I've been an avid cyclist (and motorcyclist) for a very long time. I tend to obsess on traffic safety issues / road rage, etc.. Still, I've seen cyclists behave in ways that would inspire road rage in me. Heck, I've heard some pretty outrageous cyclist behavior BRAGGED about on this forum! When cyclists are known for behaving badly in an area, the loser cyclist creates a stereotype for us all. We ALL lose.
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Originally Posted by Surftex363
Id say 90% of people that holler at me when im riding, which i just blow off, are rednecks in their stupid gas guzzling, lifted trucks.

I guess thats what i get for living in south texas...


Dude.. you hang with the wrong rednecks.. my best friend is a diehard red neck.. loves NASCAR, has a big 4wd lifted truck, hunts-kills-eats anything that moves (squirrel and dumplings is very tasty) and he rides a LeMond and finished the Hotter Than Hell 100 with me this year... all his redneck buddies laughed at first but now are 100% supportive of his riding because they've seen what it's done for him and they respect our ability to get on the road and crank out the miles - something they cannot do...

btw - I live in Spring and that's pretty much south Texas too....
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Originally Posted by tntyz
Me too, PLUS I play the banjo! My only saving grace is being from Wisconsin.
Hey I play guitar and sing. We should get together and learn the dueling banjos song.

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Yeah, Ive been yelled at countless times, had air horns blown at me, had trash thrown at me, had people intentionally run me off the road and today I was coming home from a ride and some hic threw a glass bottle at me and hit me in the chest. I'm getting tired of it. I notice its almost always grown men in lifted trucks or high school kids that think their cool because they just got their drivers license driving crappy 90s domestic sports cars and ricers. I just smile and wave at them.
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