sigg.switz

Building up a new bike, and instead of getting the Tarmac Pro SL complete, I'm considering building it....

'09 Tarmac Pro SL (White) ~$1600
'09 Rival with Red BB30 Crank (No Rival or Force Crank for BB30) ~$750
'09 Oval Concepts R701 Shallow Drop Handlebar ~$80
'08 S-Works Stem $0 (Already have it)
'08 Ultegra SL Pedals $0 (Already have them)
Williams Sys 30's w. PowerTap PRO+ ~$1400
Conti 4000S tires $0 (Already have them.)

Total comes to $3,830 - Significantly less than the $4500 for the Complete Tarmac Pro SL and it will have powertap.

So tell me - where am I going wrong? What would you change? And why does anyone buy the complete bike?

Another note: I might be able to get the frameset even cheaper w. crash replacement. So this is a high end figure.

SushiJoe

How much do you weigh? Williams 30x would be a good alternative if you are over 190.
Sounds like it will be nice. We'll need pics to verify.

Val23708

looks good. i'd get different bars but thats kind of a personal thing

kudude

build it and ride it. done.

sigg.switz

I weigh 150, so the 30s should be fine as a training wheel, and from what I've heard, if you have any problems Keith is on top of his game and is glad to help you out - for little to no cost.

I need to alter that estimate as well...Just found Rival Gruppo on PBK for $440 and free shipping - Upgrading to the red crankset takes it up to $550. So take about 200 off that estimate...

Again I am in shock as to why anyone would buy a complete Tarmac Pro SL - I think my build has a lot more value with a very minimal weight penalty. Even SRAM says Rivals shifting is equal to RED.

I think the new black rival will also look choice with the white and black frame...

seb1041

Nice build.

Get a chain.

SushiJoe

PS - I'm heavily considering a Williams Powertap Pro+ 30x set when the funds make their way back into my checking account. $1399 seems like a pretty good deal, imho.

patentcad

And here I thought we were going to get a semi-nude photo of some pathetic cycling wimp.

SushiJoe

The two biggest differences besides aesthetics are 1) No Zero Loss in the right Rival shifter and 2) weight.

SushiJoe

Are you disappointed, pcad?

haimtoeg

No saddle?

sigg.switz

What bars would you get? Just out of curiosity.

I like the shallow drop as I will be riding this without spacers, and I like the looks/feel of a traditional bend.

Interestingly there is no weight penalty for these alloy bars compared to the S-Works SL carbon bar. Both come in at around 240 grams.

sigg.switz

For now I'll be using a toupe that I have lying around.

My Selle Italia Flite Gel Flo was ruined in my crash and I can't decide to replace it, or go with a Fizik Aliante.

SushiJoe

For bars, check out the 3T Rotundos.

sigg.switz

Let's just say you wouldn't want me to bring these to a gun show

Val23708

i'm running a salsa poco right now - its a short reach bar

sigg.switz

Is 6 one-half-dozen?

From what I can tell, the Rotundos are 6mm shallower and about 30 grams heavier. I'm not a weight weenie, but when all else is equal?

I do have to say I like the white on black styling of the bar and could be a very nice complement...

Thanks for the suggestion....

dysFTP

Sounds sweet. I'd buy the parts, have someone else build it, then ride it; but that's me.

Enjoy.

SushiJoe

There's just something about the way the Rotundos feel. I don't own a set but my buddy has them and I like them better than any of my own bars, fwiw.

briscoelab

FYI: You need to look at the PBK group builder more closely. They are out of Shifters, so that price doesn't include them.

Also, I don't think you can get the Pro SL with a BB30 bottom bracket unless you get the whole bike.

sstorkel

A guy who likes a shallow drop may not like the Rotundo. The 3T Ergosum bar is the one to have...

SushiJoe

True.
The Rotundos are just my default answer to most people's bar questions these days. I freakin' love 'em!

sstorkel

This is correct. If you want a BB30 frame, your only choice is the SL2 Module. The Pro and SL2 framesets have standard bottom brackets. Or, rather, they've got a non-removable (according to my LBS) insert that converts BB30 to a standard English BB thread.

dmb2786

for shallow drop, I'm looking at deda zero 100.

I tried to make a thread, but i guess no one here knows about them. there's some info on WW though.

SushiJoe

I'd just pass on the BB30 and save some $$$.