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Old 01-31-14, 08:58 PM   #11376
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Old 01-31-14, 09:51 PM   #11377
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after much debate i decided to get new shoe covers. mine are more like aero covers and don't cut it below 50F. these are Diluvio 16s.
getting returned... sm/med didn't fit 41 shoes very well and was hard to zip up even with my skinny ass ankles. went out twice in 40F and didn't feel any warmer than the Hammer aero covers i've been using.
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Old 01-31-14, 11:05 PM   #11378
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6800 Ultegra carbon peddles going on the super six EVO so looking forward to spring
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Wear them with windstopper socks and you can go lower
Wear them with windstopper socks and you don't need them at all....
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Old 02-01-14, 04:31 PM   #11380
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You will love these pedals , I have a set and really like them. I need to get a second set for my new bike.
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Old 02-01-14, 06:40 PM   #11382
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You will love these pedals , I have a set and really like them. I need to get a second set for my new bike.
are they worth replacing the alloy versions for?
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Old 02-01-14, 08:18 PM   #11384
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are they worth replacing the alloy versions for?
As far as function goes they are no better or worse but savings little weight they are great. I was told that 105 and up SPD-SL pedals will only carbon from now on any way. The 105 carbon are really nice also for less cash. I do not know how they hold up in the long run but I have always had good results with Shimano.
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Old 02-02-14, 12:41 AM   #11385
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with 5mm shorter cranks than I've been using plus a Retul bike fit.
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are they worth replacing the alloy versions for?
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As far as function goes they are no better or worse but savings little weight they are great. I was told that 105 and up SPD-SL pedals will only carbon from now on any way. The 105 carbon are really nice also for less cash. I do not know how they hold up in the long run but I have always had good results with Shimano.
Not even that big of a weight savings...not even 74 grams between the alloy 105's and the carbon dura ace PD9000's.


Of course, 74 grams is 74 grams.

Alloy 105's = $70 @ 321 grams
Carbon 105's = $115 @ 280 grams
Carbon Dura Ace = $205 @ 247 grams
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Every gram counts. Personally I think they look good also.
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Shimano carbon pedals look great and you don't have to worry about paint chips. They even hold up very well in wrecks, I went down at 25mph around a corner and pedal has a tiny scuff that you can barely see.
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What are the prefered weight weenie pedal? I've never looked into weight on pedals, I use 105s.
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What are the prefered weight weenie pedal? I've never looked into weight on pedals, I use 105s.
Speedplay zero Titaniums. when you compare whole packages (cleats + pedals) they weight about the same as the Dura Ace + cleats but when the bike is on the scale by itlself it's about 50g lighter! I have chro-mo but going to get some titanium spindles. That will set my back $170 for a pair of 160g (both) aftermarket titanium Zeros. Well worth it if you ask me
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Speedplay zero Titaniums. when you compare whole packages (cleats + pedals) they weight about the same as the Dura Ace + cleats but when the bike is on the scale by itlself it's about 50g lighter! I have chro-mo but going to get some titanium spindles. That will set my back $170 for a pair of 160g (both) aftermarket titanium Zeros. Well worth it if you ask me
Yeah, I'd have to say speedplay are the preferred pedal as well, just based on the weight weenie bikes I've seen on here. I've already bought into the whole spd-sl system though, so I'm sticking with it.
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Speedplay zero Titaniums. when you compare whole packages (cleats + pedals) they weight about the same as the Dura Ace + cleats but when the bike is on the scale by itlself it's about 50g lighter! I have chro-mo but going to get some titanium spindles. That will set my back $170 for a pair of 160g (both) aftermarket titanium Zeros. Well worth it if you ask me
Dura Ace pedals are $100 cheaper. That's just silly.
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Speedplay zero Titaniums....
almost correct...true weight weenies will use Speedplay Zero modified with after market titanium spindles (e.g., Ward)....you can shave off a couple of grams by going with a shorter spindle...more important, you'll save $$ compared to buying the stock Speedplay...

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But you forgot to add the weight of the giant cleat...
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But you forgot to add the weight of the giant cleat...
Funny thing- Shimano lists the weight of their pedals sans cleat...and the Shimano cleats weigh the same as the giant Speedplay cleats. Total system weights are ~235 grams for the Speedplay Zero Ti and ~318 grams for Shimano. For the $100 difference on bikes that typically exceed $3k total, money well spent.
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Funny thing- Shimano lists the weight of their pedals sans cleat...and the Shimano cleats weigh the same as the giant Speedplay cleats. Total system weights are ~235 grams for the Speedplay Zero Ti and ~318 grams for Shimano. For the $100 difference on bikes that typically exceed $3k total, money well spent.
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Speedplay zero Titaniums. when you compare whole packages (cleats + pedals) they weight about the same as the Dura Ace + cleats but when the bike is on the scale by itlself it's about 50g lighter! I have chro-mo but going to get some titanium spindles. That will set my back $170 for a pair of 160g (both) aftermarket titanium Zeros. Well worth it if you ask me
Who's right?
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And if you're a true weight weenie/crackhead, I'd expect to see something silly like these,

http://www.performancebike.com/bikes...400937__400937
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