Which would result in a faster ride.
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Which would result in a faster ride.
Two riders TT a 10 mile course with a mix of flats and hills headwinds and tailwinds.
-Rider 1 averages an output power of 200 watts
-Rider 2 averages an output power of 200 watts
-Rider 1 weighs 150lbs.
-Rider 2 weighs 153lbs.
-Rider 1's bike weighs 19lbs.
-Rider 2's bike weighs 16lbs.
Go.
-Rider 1 averages an output power of 200 watts
-Rider 2 averages an output power of 200 watts
-Rider 1 weighs 150lbs.
-Rider 2 weighs 153lbs.
-Rider 1's bike weighs 19lbs.
-Rider 2's bike weighs 16lbs.
Go.
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Anyone in a V8, and most people in a V6 would be faster.
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Two riders TT a 10 mile course with a mix of flats and hills headwinds and tailwinds.
-Rider 1 averages an output power of 200 watts
-Rider 2 averages an output power of 200 watts
-Rider 1 weighs 150lbs.
-Rider 2 weighs 153lbs.
-Rider 1's bike weighs 19lbs.
-Rider 2's bike weighs 16lbs.
Go.
-Rider 1 averages an output power of 200 watts
-Rider 2 averages an output power of 200 watts
-Rider 1 weighs 150lbs.
-Rider 2 weighs 153lbs.
-Rider 1's bike weighs 19lbs.
-Rider 2's bike weighs 16lbs.
Go.
One thing is for certain, though. At 200W average for a 10-mile TT, both riders are wussy.
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The point is obviously whether it matters if the extra 3 lbs is in the bike or the rider. If the power output is the same, and they have the same drag coefficient (which is likely given only a 3 lb difference and your statement "all else being equal") then it shouldn't matter where the extra weight is; you still have to drag it up the hills.
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Actually, if one rider drafts the whole time and whips out a 2600W sprint at the end, he/she would definitely win but average power output would be the same...
Of course that wouldn't be much of a TT.
Of course that wouldn't be much of a TT.
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Two riders TT a 10 mile course with a mix of flats and hills headwinds and tailwinds.
-Rider 1 averages an output power of 200 watts
-Rider 2 averages an output power of 200 watts
-Rider 1 weighs 150lbs.
-Rider 2 weighs 153lbs.
-Rider 1's bike weighs 19lbs.
-Rider 2's bike weighs 16lbs.
Go.
-Rider 1 averages an output power of 200 watts
-Rider 2 averages an output power of 200 watts
-Rider 1 weighs 150lbs.
-Rider 2 weighs 153lbs.
-Rider 1's bike weighs 19lbs.
-Rider 2's bike weighs 16lbs.
Go.
This is a different scenario then in your original thread.
The riders here would post identical times since they have the same overall weight and power output (assuming a constant 200w start to finish and are identical in every other way).
In your other scenario you made no distinction of power differences due to different weight's of the riders. In the other thread it was fair to assume a heavier rider outputs more power and a heavier bike tires a person quicker leading to a real world rider 2 being faster.
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which one drank a redbull before the race? Because, well, flying would get him to the finish line much faster.
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Why are there interstate highways in Hawaii?
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What if the rider with the heavier bike had half that extra 3lbs on his wheels? Even if there were no real climbing anywhere that would still mean that his acceleration from the start line might be .5- 1 seconds slower, costing him the win.
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Originally Posted by jynx
This is a different scenario then in your original thread.
The riders here would post identical times since they have the same overall weight and power output (assuming a constant 200w start to finish and are identical in every other way).
In your other scenario you made no distinction of power differences due to different weight's of the riders. In the other thread it was fair to assume a heavier rider outputs more power and a heavier bike tires a person quicker leading to a real world rider 2 being faster.
The riders here would post identical times since they have the same overall weight and power output (assuming a constant 200w start to finish and are identical in every other way).
In your other scenario you made no distinction of power differences due to different weight's of the riders. In the other thread it was fair to assume a heavier rider outputs more power and a heavier bike tires a person quicker leading to a real world rider 2 being faster.
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I am flattered you took the time to make all those screenshots but I took you off ignore a couple of days ago. I didn't say this was the first time I responded to you since then.
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Already did. Now i must find some entertainment on this Sunday night.
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which one is on EPO?
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I love riddles.....
A rider is traveling a 4 mile course. He averages 30mph over the first 2 miles. What will his speed need to be over the last 2 miles of the course to have an average of 60mph over the entire 4 miles.
A rider is traveling a 4 mile course. He averages 30mph over the first 2 miles. What will his speed need to be over the last 2 miles of the course to have an average of 60mph over the entire 4 miles.
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Did he happen to move his water bottle to his jersey pocket at the 2 mile marker?
