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The Perils of Fredosity #17: Rear View Mirrors

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Old 04-01-09, 05:59 PM
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The Perils of Fredosity #17: Rear View Mirrors

Freds think they know a lot about road cycling, so inevitably, they become convinced they are absolutely correct, and these delusions become part and parcel of the Fred Gospel. Perhaps the most hazardous of all these silly notions is the idea that a rearview mirror on your bicycle or helmet will keep you safer. Au contraire mon petite Fredrique.

Mirrors let you see the car behind you. Maybe it's getting closer than you're comfortable with. What will you do with this information? Hyperspace to another planet? Ride your bicycle off the road and into a ditch on the off-chance that this will result in a less traumatic injury? Uh-huh.

This is the dangerous part about mirrors: they take your focus off the one thing you CAN control, i.e., your line on the bike, which should be straight, unwavering and as far to the right as possible. Try an experiment with your Fred friends. While riding down the road in a straight line @ 17 mph, ask one of them to turn their head to the left, as if they are about to check out the traffic behind them. Please note how 90% of the time, their bicycle will drift 1-3' leftward out into the lane. Your bicycle will go the way your head turns. You could make the argument that a mirror allows you to see the traffic behind you without turning your head, but I'd counter that this really doesn't deliver much useful information, and again, it distracts your focus from holding your line.

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rear view mirrors rue....I mean rule!
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I sneak up on riders with rear view mirrors anyways. I don't think they use them. My theory is that they're going for the "intelligent cyclist" look. Almost a Theodore Roosevelt eyepiece look.

A rear view mirror and a Pearl Izumi "Screaming Yellow" jacket are big no-no's in my book.
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Originally Posted by Tapeworm21
I sneak up on riders with rear view mirrors anyways. I don't think they use them. My theory is that they're going for the "intelligent cyclist" look. Almost a Theodore Roosevelt eyepiece look.

A rear view mirror and a Pearl Izumi "Screaming Yellow" jacket are big no-no's in my book.
Don't be dissing the Don't Flatten Me Yellow Zephyr Jacket dude. That's the only reason I'm not dead yet.

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Briko helmet, Halt, mirror, seat bag. I may have Jelly Beans also.

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It's a Fred, Fred, Fred, Fred World.
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If you guys would have held out for another three minutes he would have responded to his own post...time and time again.
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Originally Posted by laduckslayer
If you guys would have held out for another three minutes he would have responded to his own post...time and time again.
That's hardly necessary.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
That's hardly necessary.
But it never hurts.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
That's hardly necessary.
Welcome back fatty
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Originally Posted by RichinPeoria
Welcome back fatty
I'm climbing pretty good Richie.
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WRT the fluorescent jacket, better Fred than dead. I've found that the mirror-using cyclists are the most high strung of them all. Really twitchy when you pass them.
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Originally Posted by Ratfish
WRT the fluorescent jacket, better Fred than dead.
That's what I think. I ride too many miles to worry about the utter morons who really think Don't Flatten Me Yellow is a Fred Accoutrement.
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I'm climbing pretty good Richie.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
That's what I think. I ride too many miles to worry about the utter morons who really think Don't Flatten Me Yellow is a Fred Accoutrement.
I'm glad to here you say that. This Summer I'll wear my neon green sleeveless with pride.
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Originally Posted by Tapeworm21
My theory is that they're going for the "intelligent cyclist" look. Almost a Theodore Roosevelt eyepiece look.
T. Roosevelt? Naw. More like Dr. Strangelove.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Freds think they know a lot about road cycling, so inevitably, they become convinced they are absolutely correct, and these delusions become part and parcel of the Fred Gospel. Perhaps the most hazardous of all these silly notions is the idea that a rearview mirror on your bicycle or helmet will keep you safer. Au contraire mon petite Fredrique.

Mirrors let you see the car behind you. Maybe it's getting closer than you're comfortable with. What will you do with this information? Hyperspace to another planet? Ride your bicycle off the road and into a ditch on the off-chance that this will result in a less traumatic injury? Uh-huh.

This is the dangerous part about mirrors: they take your focus off the one thing you CAN control, i.e., your line on the bike, which should be straight, unwavering and as far to the right as possible. Try an experiment with your Fred friends. While riding down the road in a straight line @ 17 mph, ask one of them to turn their head to the left, as if they are about to check out the traffic behind them. Please note how 90% of the time, their bicycle will drift 1-3' leftward out into the lane. Your bicycle will go the way your head turns. You could make the argument that a mirror allows you to see the traffic behind you without turning your head, but I'd counter that this really doesn't deliver much useful information, and again, it distracts your focus from holding your line.

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90% of this could be applied to car mirrors. Changing lanes, turns, etc (not to mention general awareness) are all useful things to be able to see whenever you want. It's only a distraction to the extant a computer, the scenery, or anything else is. That is, only as distracting as you let it be. Used appropriately, it's only more information on which to base your decisions. I agree that you should be in the shoulder, and you shouldn't need to adjust for an incoming car, but this is only one of many scenarios bicyclists ride under.

Whether or not the can hold a line without drifting is once again a function of user error; they should learn to hold their line just as much as someone without should. That they haven't is laziness on their part, not the mirror's.
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Originally Posted by Superweirdash
Whether or not the can hold a line without drifting is once again a function of user error; they should learn to hold their line just as much as someone without should. That they haven't is laziness on their part, not the mirror's.
I think you're letting the mirrors off a little lightly there...
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The only day I tried a mirror, I got honked an buzzed twice. Normally, that's a once per season thing.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
That's what I think. I ride too many miles to worry about the utter morons who really think Don't Flatten Me Yellow is a Fred Accoutrement.
OMG, you want one so bad, you can taste it.
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What if you aren't riding in a pace line?
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Turning my head works pretty well for me and I can hold my line in the process so a mirror won't really add much other than not having to turn my head, since neck flexibility isn't an issue either I can't say I need one.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
and as far to the right as possible.


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Handy for emergency roadside dental exams.

I ride a lot of small country roads and don't always keep as far to the right as possible. When I see a car approaching I'll peek in the mirror to see about avoiding three vehicles across.


When mirrors are outlawed only outlaws will have mirrors.
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