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Old 04-23-09, 09:13 PM
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Dedicated cassett or swap?

I have new set of Williams 30s on the way. I will use these for fast hilly group ride and climbing. I would like to put a dedicated 12-26 cassette (53 39 upfront) and Conti GP 4000S on the Williams and just swap wheels. Anyone else using a dedicated cassette on each wheelset or are you swapping the same cassette?
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Funny, my Sys30's should be here Monday and I bought a dedicated cassette. This is my first "extra" wheelset, I bought an Ultegra 6600 (same as current) 12-27 for $65 shipped and Pro3's (I run 4000S's on my other wheels).
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It's much easier having at least one cassette for every wheelset you plan on using regularly.
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
It's much easier having at least one cassette for every wheelset you plan on using regularly.
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I run dedicated cassettes. Also tires/tubes. I swap a couple QR skewers because I have only two trainer (rear) skewers and two sets of "nice" reliable use-friendly skewers (Campy aluminum ended ones).

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Originally Posted by psimet2001
it's much easier having at least one cassette for every wheelset you plan on using regularly.
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It really does make wheel swaps a lot easier. In the long run, it's no more expensive either. Given that you're going to have to replace cassettes as they wear anyway. (i.e. 2 cassettes every 10000 miles is the same cost as one cassette every 5000 miles)

And if you race, you have to have 2 cassettes to use one set of wheels in the wheel pit, or wheel truck.
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What about differing chain and cassette wear? Wouldn't that cause the chain to skip on say a newer(race only miles) cassette with less wear?
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Originally Posted by torps
What about differing chain and cassette wear? Wouldn't that cause the chain to skip on say a newer(race only miles) cassette with less wear?
Valid point. Swapping wheels and cassettes is an additional reason to maintain your chain and replace it at the proper intervals.

If you replace your chain when you're suppose to it, it's not a problem. if you put a new cassette with a chain worn past spec, it will be a problem.
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Both. I have cassettes for all my rear wheels, but I also swap in accordance to my needs, i.e., I have a mix of 11-23, 12-23, and 12-25 cassettes I like to use for various rides. If you race, I'd recommend at least two complete wheelsets and cassettes to go on both; the extra for the wheel car or pit.
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Originally Posted by torps
What about differing chain and cassette wear? Wouldn't that cause the chain to skip on say a newer(race only miles) cassette with less wear?
Actually, no. A chain skips when it's brand new and the cogs are worn, not the other way around.

The best situation would be matched chains and cassettes and easy to do with master links on the chain.
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I finally rode enough to run into a problem with worn chains and cassettes.

With 8s I had a lot of gear and it didn't matter if something wore out, I had replacements. It helped that I had a lot of individual cogs, so I could replace just the 19T, for example. Cassettes were all separate and I had a few that I could cannibalize for cogs. This was back in the primitive days - I even have an 8s freewheel for my now-gone disk wheel. The only cogs I wore out that I regret wearing out were some aluminum Campy cassettes. They were light!

With 9s I simply didn't ride enough to wear out the 4 or so cassettes I had. I got a new frame a couple times and only changed chains then (one of my 9s speed frames still has the chain on it). I think I went through 4 chains on my 9s stuff, maybe one or two more. I only used one set of shifters and one rear derailleur, so I don't think it was too many.

With 10s I got onto my 6th or 7th chain (1 chain on one frame, 1 chain on another, 2 chains on the 3rd, and the second chain on the 4th bike) and suddenly all the good cassettes I had were bad. They skipped pretty readily on most of the middle cogs. This applied to three different cassettes, all of them a Ti/Steel setup. I had to replace them (the other cassettes were on wheels I rarely used so they were still fine). Cost a bundle. Now I'm good again, but I compromised on gearing for my main training cassette (I took a perfectly fine 12-25 off and just stuck it in my toolbox because I generally run 11-23 or 11-25, but now I have that 12-25 in use). I also went all steel with the other cassettes.

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