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05-10-09, 04:23 AM
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It's complcated.
He's an employee. There is a "morals" clause in his contract. He broke the contract. He used an illegal substance. As many employees are, he is subject to a drug test, not only for PED's, but for illegal substances.
Maybe looking up the word "morals" might help.
BTW...he did go to court last time and they let him off the hook. Court is a place one goes when one does something illegal.
He might not get so lucky this time.
He's an employee. There is a "morals" clause in his contract. He broke the contract. He used an illegal substance. As many employees are, he is subject to a drug test, not only for PED's, but for illegal substances.
Maybe looking up the word "morals" might help.
BTW...he did go to court last time and they let him off the hook. Court is a place one goes when one does something illegal.
He might not get so lucky this time.
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05-10-09, 05:26 AM
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Short of PED's, I don't care if an athlete uses recreational drugs. I can understand why an Employer, Team or Sponsor would care, but that's none of my business.
05-10-09, 06:08 AM
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Would someone please tell me what is so "recreational" about drug use? About addiction? Don't obscure the complexity of addiction with cute terms.
And for those who don't think it's their business, is it your business if your sport heroes die from this "recreation"?
Sheesh.......
And for those who don't think it's their business, is it your business if your sport heroes die from this "recreation"?
Sheesh.......
05-10-09, 10:00 AM
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When a professional athlete does something stupid (and illegal), that has no performance enhancing capability, it never surprises me and I never really care about it. I say let the courts handle it.
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05-10-09, 10:24 AM
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Some of the personality traits that make a person capable of being wildly successful at a sport so dangerous, exhilarating and demanding as pro cycling are the very same traits that make a person susceptible to substance abuse and addiction.
Discuss.
Discuss.
05-10-09, 11:01 AM
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I have a very healthy fear of drugs outside of caffeine and alcohol
I used to be straight edge if any of you know what that means
Now that I have started cycling, I have a higher regard and respect for my body, that I only want to improve it and avoid the things that will ruin it; and I feel that this is how many cyclists, roadies in particular feel as well.
Isn't that the point of cycling? And, moreover, the point of bike companies and teams hiring talented racers like Boonen, to show us how it could be, leading us to spend astronomical amounts of money on their products?
Not only am I disgusted by someone abusing a pristine biological system made to compete in something like P-R, it's vile that Boonen is helping support the cocaine industry and if you don't know how bad that is, get yourself educated.
I used to be straight edge if any of you know what that means
Now that I have started cycling, I have a higher regard and respect for my body, that I only want to improve it and avoid the things that will ruin it; and I feel that this is how many cyclists, roadies in particular feel as well.
Isn't that the point of cycling? And, moreover, the point of bike companies and teams hiring talented racers like Boonen, to show us how it could be, leading us to spend astronomical amounts of money on their products?
Not only am I disgusted by someone abusing a pristine biological system made to compete in something like P-R, it's vile that Boonen is helping support the cocaine industry and if you don't know how bad that is, get yourself educated.
05-10-09, 11:26 AM
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I have a very healthy fear of drugs outside of caffeine and alcohol
I used to be straight edge if any of you know what that means
Now that I have started cycling, I have a higher regard and respect for my body, that I only want to improve it and avoid the things that will ruin it; and I feel that this is how many cyclists, roadies in particular feel as well.
Isn't that the point of cycling? And, moreover, the point of bike companies and teams hiring talented racers like Boonen, to show us how it could be, leading us to spend astronomical amounts of money on their products?
Not only am I disgusted by someone abusing a pristine biological system made to compete in something like P-R, it's vile that Boonen is helping support the cocaine industry and if you don't know how bad that is, get yourself educated.
I used to be straight edge if any of you know what that means
Now that I have started cycling, I have a higher regard and respect for my body, that I only want to improve it and avoid the things that will ruin it; and I feel that this is how many cyclists, roadies in particular feel as well.
Isn't that the point of cycling? And, moreover, the point of bike companies and teams hiring talented racers like Boonen, to show us how it could be, leading us to spend astronomical amounts of money on their products?
Not only am I disgusted by someone abusing a pristine biological system made to compete in something like P-R, it's vile that Boonen is helping support the cocaine industry and if you don't know how bad that is, get yourself educated.
Why do other drugs scare you but not alcohol?
05-10-09, 11:53 AM
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Of all things to point out from my post...
Alcohol in my own body doesn't phase me, in the hands of others I'm very wary.
Because I only drink occasionally, a six pack of beers a night maximum, it's an age old art; I can certainly appreciate the man that makes a really good beer whether it's a guy in his backyard or a big company, it isn't made and distributed through nefarious means outside of sheisty advertisement, when I drink a beer or coffee, I know what's in it (cocaine has all sorts of stuff in it. Acetone! just like methamphetamine, or even so many prescription drugs.)
This is what The Tornado put in his body:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_bZZt1zs60
Alcohol in my own body doesn't phase me, in the hands of others I'm very wary.
Because I only drink occasionally, a six pack of beers a night maximum, it's an age old art; I can certainly appreciate the man that makes a really good beer whether it's a guy in his backyard or a big company, it isn't made and distributed through nefarious means outside of sheisty advertisement, when I drink a beer or coffee, I know what's in it (cocaine has all sorts of stuff in it. Acetone! just like methamphetamine, or even so many prescription drugs.)
This is what The Tornado put in his body:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_bZZt1zs60
05-10-09, 12:16 PM
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Of all things to point out from my post...
Alcohol in my own body doesn't phase me, in the hands of others I'm very wary.
Because I only drink occasionally, a six pack of beers a night maximum, it's an age old art; I can certainly appreciate the man that makes a really good beer whether it's a guy in his backyard or a big company, it isn't made and distributed through nefarious means outside of sheisty advertisement, when I drink a beer or coffee, I know what's in it (cocaine has all sorts of stuff in it. Acetone! just like methamphetamine, or even so many prescription drugs.)
This is what The Tornado put in his body:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_bZZt1zs60
Alcohol in my own body doesn't phase me, in the hands of others I'm very wary.
Because I only drink occasionally, a six pack of beers a night maximum, it's an age old art; I can certainly appreciate the man that makes a really good beer whether it's a guy in his backyard or a big company, it isn't made and distributed through nefarious means outside of sheisty advertisement, when I drink a beer or coffee, I know what's in it (cocaine has all sorts of stuff in it. Acetone! just like methamphetamine, or even so many prescription drugs.)
This is what The Tornado put in his body:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_bZZt1zs60
Maybe your post will educate a few of these people.
05-10-09, 12:19 PM
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Of all things to point out from my post...
Alcohol in my own body doesn't phase me, in the hands of others I'm very wary.
Because I only drink occasionally, a six pack of beers a night maximum, it's an age old art; I can certainly appreciate the man that makes a really good beer whether it's a guy in his backyard or a big company, it isn't made and distributed through nefarious means outside of sheisty advertisement, when I drink a beer or coffee, I know what's in it (cocaine has all sorts of stuff in it. Acetone! just like methamphetamine, or even so many prescription drugs.)
This is what The Tornado put in his body:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_bZZt1zs60
Alcohol in my own body doesn't phase me, in the hands of others I'm very wary.
Because I only drink occasionally, a six pack of beers a night maximum, it's an age old art; I can certainly appreciate the man that makes a really good beer whether it's a guy in his backyard or a big company, it isn't made and distributed through nefarious means outside of sheisty advertisement, when I drink a beer or coffee, I know what's in it (cocaine has all sorts of stuff in it. Acetone! just like methamphetamine, or even so many prescription drugs.)
This is what The Tornado put in his body:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_bZZt1zs60
I pointed that out because the fear surrounding cocaine and other drugs are why they are illegal, and that is the reason why there is so much crime and violence surrounding them. Of course it isn't good for you but if someone wants to do it I have no problem.
05-10-09, 01:01 PM
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Washed up former cokeheads are always the most interesting to watch self-implode. I think Boonen will be ok... I wonder if he's rippin' the nose candy to increase his heart rate/sprint speed....
05-10-09, 02:06 PM
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check out these stats on Alcohol vs. Cocaine use in the United States. Cocaine is pretty bad but alcohol abuse/addiction is far worse.
https://www.drug-statistics.com/alcohol.htm
https://www.drug-statistics.com/cocaine.htm
https://www.drug-statistics.com/alcohol.htm
https://www.drug-statistics.com/cocaine.htm
05-10-09, 02:49 PM
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I can't say he should be punished outright for whatever, but if I was a teamowner I wouldn't want him on the team. I'd rather have a clean perpetually mediocre rider than someone who will constantly win then screw up
05-10-09, 03:04 PM
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Drugs can be relaxing and enjoyable.
Although personally I prefer to relax with a nice cup of tea & a sit down, not cocaine
05-10-09, 04:09 PM
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the amount of stupidity in here ONLY proves one point clearly!
There are a lot of "TOM BOONEN" Minds here minus his cycling ability buwahahahahahahaha...
There are a lot of "TOM BOONEN" Minds here minus his cycling ability buwahahahahahahaha...
05-10-09, 04:17 PM
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Hell Riccardo Ricco and Vino will soon be back....I am sure teams are interested! Fact: Teams don't want negative publicity...if a rider is busted...get him to lie low for a the duration of suspension. Then bring him back after with a self-help book dose of "I am contrite forgive me interviews". Its all bull$hit but it works....
All those who doubt me.....watch for Ricco on TDF 2010...the Cobra will continue his duel with Contador.
05-10-09, 05:51 PM
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05-10-09, 07:19 PM
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At the end of the article:
"In this case, his suspended conviction would be canceled and there is a great risk he would need to go and face the tribunal."
Not riding may be he least of his worries. Would a tribunal put him a way for a short time?
"In this case, his suspended conviction would be canceled and there is a great risk he would need to go and face the tribunal."
Not riding may be he least of his worries. Would a tribunal put him a way for a short time?
05-10-09, 07:20 PM
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According to a jury or popular opinion? If criminal behavior is insignificant the slope is slippery isn't it?
As RoadWarrior pointed out Boonen has a contract and it, probably (though I haven't seen it), contains a morals clause. Boonen violated it and has been suspended by his team. Fans of Boonen or QuickStep or cycling in general want to know what is going on. Team sponsors want to know why an employee that they're paying a very large salary to is embarrassing them.
Finally, cocaine use is apparently illegal in the jurisdiction where Boonen lives. He dodged a bullet once and, allegedly, didn't learn his lesson. I'm not piling on and if the Belgian courts choose to look the other way again I don't care all that much but I can't agree that his repeated dabbling in illegal activity is strictly personal business.
As RoadWarrior pointed out Boonen has a contract and it, probably (though I haven't seen it), contains a morals clause. Boonen violated it and has been suspended by his team. Fans of Boonen or QuickStep or cycling in general want to know what is going on. Team sponsors want to know why an employee that they're paying a very large salary to is embarrassing them.
Finally, cocaine use is apparently illegal in the jurisdiction where Boonen lives. He dodged a bullet once and, allegedly, didn't learn his lesson. I'm not piling on and if the Belgian courts choose to look the other way again I don't care all that much but I can't agree that his repeated dabbling in illegal activity is strictly personal business.
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