nashbar selling your credit card information
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nashbar selling your credit card information
I recently had the experience of receiving a set of Disney First-time Readers from Grolier books, which I had apparently ordered online. I did not order such a thing (since I have no children and am reasonably literate) and so I had this returned and that was not a problem. I was curious, however, about how my credit card info (I was billed) and address was obtained by grolier. They said I had signed up for it through the web, but I didnt remember doing such a thing. I looked at the info that they had on me and one clue was that the home phone number i had given was actually my work number. So I looked up all the accounts I have online (ie. contact lens, ebay, nashbar, performance...etc.) and the only one that has that error is the nashbar account. Clearly, they had sold my info to Grolier. The security policy for Nashbar also indicates that they can share your credit card and contact info to third party 'affiliates' unless otherwise stated.
So this is just a warning about Nashbar. Yeah, their prices are cheap, but there's definitely a price to pay.
So this is just a warning about Nashbar. Yeah, their prices are cheap, but there's definitely a price to pay.
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Holy paranoia! There is no way in hell Nashbar 'sold your credit card info'; that would be business suicide, and they would have no reason to do it anyway.
I would be willing to bet that the card processor or Nashbar had been hacked, though.
Holy paranoia! There is no way in hell Nashbar 'sold your credit card info'; that would be business suicide, and they would have no reason to do it anyway.
I would be willing to bet that the card processor or Nashbar had been hacked, though.
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Read their security policy on their website. You can apparently 'opt out' of having your info exchanged...
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This has been happening to many, many people lately. Myself included. I'm not sure how these fraudsters are getting our credit card info, but I would seriously doubt legitimate businesses are selling the info.
I would dispute the charge(s) with your credit card holder, have them close the current account and send you a card with a new account number.
I would dispute the charge(s) with your credit card holder, have them close the current account and send you a card with a new account number.
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i have had the same problem. i've heard the best way to deal with this moving forward is to obtain a "one time use" number from your credit card company which is only good for one purchase. that way, stealing the number is of no value...
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This has been happening to many, many people lately. Myself included. I'm not sure how these fraudsters are getting our credit card info, but I would seriously doubt legitimate businesses are selling the info.
I would dispute the charge(s) with your credit card holder, have them close the current account and send you a card with a new account number.
I would dispute the charge(s) with your credit card holder, have them close the current account and send you a card with a new account number.
I am willing to bet that this is part of their business model...bc they really are selling things 10-20% cheaper than anywhere else online.
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The amount wasnt big, and Grolier was more than happy to take the return and reverse the charge...but it's just a damned inconvenience, and I dont like my info being punted about.
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They can't bill you for something you didn't order. That's fraud. Even if they reverse the order, it's still illegal for them to be doing it in the first place. You should contact your state attorneys - if this happened the way you think it did, Nashbar is in deep Scattante.
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According to their policy:
We may also make certain third party offers available on our site from time to time, some of which may require us to pass a user’s personal information to them for processing. Should a user choose to accept such an offer, we will pass that user’s relevant personal information, which may include name, postal address, credit/debit card number and any other required billing information, to that specific third party.
We may also make certain third party offers available on our site from time to time, some of which may require us to pass a user’s personal information to them for processing. Should a user choose to accept such an offer, we will pass that user’s relevant personal information, which may include name, postal address, credit/debit card number and any other required billing information, to that specific third party.
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According to their policy:
We may also make certain third party offers available on our site from time to time, some of which may require us to pass a user’s personal information to them for processing. Should a user choose to accept such an offer, we will pass that user’s relevant personal information, which may include name, postal address, credit/debit card number and any other required billing information, to that specific third party.
We may also make certain third party offers available on our site from time to time, some of which may require us to pass a user’s personal information to them for processing. Should a user choose to accept such an offer, we will pass that user’s relevant personal information, which may include name, postal address, credit/debit card number and any other required billing information, to that specific third party.
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According to their policy:
We may also make certain third party offers available on our site from time to time, some of which may require us to pass a user’s personal information to them for processing. Should a user choose to accept such an offer, we will pass that user’s relevant personal information, which may include name, postal address, credit/debit card number and any other required billing information, to that specific third party.
We may also make certain third party offers available on our site from time to time, some of which may require us to pass a user’s personal information to them for processing. Should a user choose to accept such an offer, we will pass that user’s relevant personal information, which may include name, postal address, credit/debit card number and any other required billing information, to that specific third party.
Someone got hold of your CC number and ordered some books and screwed up the shipping address, plain and simple. Check out some of the other threads about this exact same thing with other companies. There is no conspiracy by Nashbar to sell you books that you didn't order.
BTW, have you contacted Nashbar about this?
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my info was shared.......by nashbar in Feb of this year.....and my credit card was promptly billed for 2 plane tickets from Chicago to Phoenix on Southwest Air, $243 worth of itunes music, and a rental car. Kudos to Wells Fargo for fighting for me. Got the confirmations from Southwest and passenger itineraries with names, etc...and they are hunting these thieves down
I use "share" loosely only because it fits this nashbar scenario. We still havent determined who the two felons are.... only that the last transaction on my card before this was to nashbar.
I refuse to buy from them again
I use "share" loosely only because it fits this nashbar scenario. We still havent determined who the two felons are.... only that the last transaction on my card before this was to nashbar.
I refuse to buy from them again
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What makes you think this is anything other than bog standard CC fraud due to hacking or an internal leak? I'm not very fond of Nashbar, but you have no basis at all to make the acquisition that they have knowingly passed on your CC info. This is how bogus rumors get started.
Someone got hold of your CC number and ordered some books and screwed up the shipping address, plain and simple. Check out some of the other threads about this exact same thing with other companies. There is no conspiracy by Nashbar to sell you books that you didn't order.
BTW, have you contacted Nashbar about this?
Someone got hold of your CC number and ordered some books and screwed up the shipping address, plain and simple. Check out some of the other threads about this exact same thing with other companies. There is no conspiracy by Nashbar to sell you books that you didn't order.
BTW, have you contacted Nashbar about this?
It's so easy for people to get CC info.
Cardholder liability is normally zero so people are safe. It's a just a headache straightening it out.
This is one reason why interest rates are high and benefits are dropping.
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my info was shared.......by nashbar in Feb of this year.....and my credit card was promptly billed for 2 plane tickets from Chicago to Phoenix on Southwest Air, $243 worth of itunes music, and a rental car. Kudos to Wells Fargo for fighting for me. Got the confirmations from Southwest and passenger itineraries with names, etc...and they are hunting these thieves down
I use "share" loosely only because it fits this nashbar scenario. We still havent determined who the two felons are.... only that the last transaction on my card before this was to nashbar.
I refuse to buy from them again
I use "share" loosely only because it fits this nashbar scenario. We still havent determined who the two felons are.... only that the last transaction on my card before this was to nashbar.
I refuse to buy from them again
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I recently had the experience of receiving a set of Disney First-time Readers from Grolier books, which I had apparently ordered online. I did not order such a thing (since I have no children and am reasonably literate) and so I had this returned and that was not a problem. I was curious, however, about how my credit card info (I was billed) and address was obtained by grolier. They said I had signed up for it through the web, but I didnt remember doing such a thing. I looked at the info that they had on me and one clue was that the home phone number i had given was actually my work number. So I looked up all the accounts I have online (ie. contact lens, ebay, nashbar, performance...etc.) and the only one that has that error is the nashbar account. Clearly, they had sold my info to Grolier. The security policy for Nashbar also indicates that they can share your credit card and contact info to third party 'affiliates' unless otherwise stated.
So this is just a warning about Nashbar. Yeah, their prices are cheap, but there's definitely a price to pay.
So this is just a warning about Nashbar. Yeah, their prices are cheap, but there's definitely a price to pay.
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my info was shared.......by nashbar in Feb of this year.....and my credit card was promptly billed for 2 plane tickets from Chicago to Phoenix on Southwest Air, $243 worth of itunes music, and a rental car. Kudos to Wells Fargo for fighting for me. Got the confirmations from Southwest and passenger itineraries with names, etc...and they are hunting these thieves down
I use "share" loosely only because it fits this nashbar scenario. We still havent determined who the two felons are.... only that the last transaction on my card before this was to nashbar.
I refuse to buy from them again
I use "share" loosely only because it fits this nashbar scenario. We still havent determined who the two felons are.... only that the last transaction on my card before this was to nashbar.
I refuse to buy from them again
Dude... they are sharing your purchase info, email, address, etc not your CC number Your CC # was compromised and thats how those charges showed up.
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if Nashbar does this, and they're owned by Performance, how likely is it that the same thing is happening with Performance weborders?
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What's a "state attorney"?
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According to their policy:
We may also make certain third party offers available on our site from time to time, some of which may require us to pass a user’s personal information to them for processing. Should a user choose to accept such an offer, we will pass that user’s relevant personal information, which may include name, postal address, credit/debit card number and any other required billing information, to that specific third party.
We may also make certain third party offers available on our site from time to time, some of which may require us to pass a user’s personal information to them for processing. Should a user choose to accept such an offer, we will pass that user’s relevant personal information, which may include name, postal address, credit/debit card number and any other required billing information, to that specific third party.
As stated by others, this is probably the result of hacked or compromised merchant servers. The idea earlier of getting a one-time-use credit card number is great advice.
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i agree it could certainly be credit card fraud. but you know that books only cost in total something like $15 CAD and I haven't had any other suspicious transactions. I called Visa and they said that it is not uncommon for online vendors to share information like that unless otherwise opted out of (most people dont read the disclaimers), so they told me to call Grolier first.
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