Sinn

I just bought carbon wheels (reynolds dv46ul tubular ) but they did not come with carbon pads (it was an ebay purchase). Now instead of spending over $60 to get Swissstops, I was thinking of just getting Koolstop pads that cost under $20 and switching out pads. It is easy to do and it only takes a few minutes to slide out the standard pads, slide in the new, and readjust the brake levers. My question is whether any of you who have done this have found that frequent sliding in and out quickly wears out the pads such that they won't stay in anymore. When I slide them in and out, it is often the case that a small sliver of material comes off the pad. Is this a reason to splurge on the Swissstops or has it been of no consequence in your experience?

timster

I don't see how it should be a problem. There should be a little screw that holds them in anyways.

damocles1

Just buy the Swiss Stops and be done with it...they work better and go both ways.

botto 

i switch every now and then, mostly depending on the weather.

case in point, tomorrow i'll be doing a 160km ride in the ardennes, and the forecast is for thunderstorms. out with the swissstops, and in with the da blocks.

Sinn

There is not. I use Zero Gravity, certified weight weenie brakes.

umd

Reynolds recommends swissstop. I assume you are looking at koolstops for carbon rims and not the "salmon" or regular pads that everyone here recommends. fwiw, I've heard that the carbon koolstop pads wear very quickly. I've found swissstops for $50, it's worth it. They will last more than twice as long and you will spend less overall.

Edit: oh yeah, I had some koolstop salmons (before I got my carbon wheels) and I had to shave the back of the pad down to get them in the holder. I've had no problems with the swissstops. I assume you know you need to get campy pads for the zero gravities.

BlastRadius

I've had the Koolstops for Carbon and they DO wear quickly, and they don't stop very well when they get hot like on a long downhill. The SwissStops are worth the $$.

Sinn

Yeah, and the campy versions are generally $20 more expensive.

Jynx

Just get the swissstops and be done with it. It may end up being cheaper in the long run because like stated I have heard the kool stops wear very quickly.

mp123

I think your $450 pair of calipers deserves SwissStop pads...

ericm979

Reynolds says that the SwissStops and Kool-stops are acceptable. I tried the Koolstops first 'cause they are cheaper. For me they were terrible... they squealed loudly and parts of the pads broke off during a short ride with no real descents. And they didn't brake very well. OTOH, I ran into someone else using them who said they worked fine for him. I had the brakes aligned properly and toed in so I don't know what else I could have done.

I switched to SwissStops and they work much better.

If you are stripping material off your pads when you slide them in or out of the Shimano holders you are doing it wrong.

Sinn

There is no way I would pay that much for those calipers. They were off ebay too, and they sell cheap there. I do really like them however. The progressive braking is to my taste.

One more question: I just read an advertisement which states that Swissstop Yellow "does not collect aluminum particles". Can any of you attest to this?

Here is the advertisement:
https://www.wekeepyoucycling.com/en/s...?productid=127

umd

Zero Gravity brakes use campy pads. They slide in but the part where they slid in was too wide so I had to cut them down a few mm. Wasn't a problem with swissstops.

Sinn

Well, another $50 on Ebay. I hope what you guys say is true; I hope these pads are worth it.