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    Gonna build me a 'splody bike...

    Four years ago my bad-***** Schwinn Moab 1 MTB was stolen out of my garage while we were out of town. I felt so violated but took it as an omen that it was probably time to move over to the roadie world.

    I scoured eBay for bikes, both complete and not, and bought my Interloc Impala (Reynolds 853) frame for $120. I had a great time buying parts, learning about bike building and have been rewarded over the past few years with a unique, reliable and not very flashy bike. Time to move to the next level.

    I got the bug to upgrade about a month ago (happens every year in the spring) and knowing that I had most of a 10-speed Ultegra setup just sitting on the workbench, I started looking again for frames. Spotted a '07 TCR frame online and went to a local shop to try the geometry, just to make sure it would fit. It did and I loved the ride (and the lbs offered me a great deal on the complete bike) but I was committed to doing the build myself.

    Then one day last week while cruising eBay, I came across this ParkPre frame. If you've been on eBay looking for frames you've probably seen a few come up lately. I still don't know the whole story but apparently ParkPre made some killer MTBs back in the 70's, took time off and are relaunching shortly with two road models and a TT model. In preparation, they've sponsored the "Successful Living" cycling team over the past few years. Here's an article with the owner. Their main site says "They'll be back soon" but if you hit this link you can view what they've got so far.


    I ended up buying it for $386 plus shipping then spent most of the past weekend figuring out what else I needed to buy. This week it was like waiting for Christmas to arrive! But it did and now I have everything to build it up...as follows:

    • Drive train - Ultegra 10-speed, standard double, 12-25 cassette
    • Fork - Ritchey Pro Carbon
    • Headset - Ritchey Pro Integrated
    • Wheels - Ritchey Deep Section - Bought 3 years ago with my Interloc build but changed over to Open Pros.
    • Bars - ITM Lite Luxe
    • Stem - Forte 110mm
    • Pedals - Shimano 540 SPD-SL
    • Saddle - Fizik Aliante
    • Seatpost - Thompson Elite
    • Water bottle cages - Arundel
    • Bartape - TBD...but I'm thinking Red to match the red in the lettering
    • Computer - Bought a "second bike" mounting kit for the VDO that's on my Interloc

    Just need to get to my LBS tomorrow for a bunch of parts (spacers, ferrules, cable guide bolt, etc.) and will hopefully have it built by the end of the weekend.

    My one moment of panic was when, while looking over the frame, I saw a small jaggedy hole behind the BB when the chainstays meet the BB. And another one one the bottom! Then I figured out that's where the Front Derailleur cable routes. Duh!

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    Looking forward to seeing the complete bike. Pity that you're using ShimaNO though.

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    My neighbor knew some people from Parkpre in the early 90's and they made some quality steel framesets. I believe he rode a Parkpre mountainbike before Fat Chance and then later Cannondale picked him up for sponsorship in downhill racing. Still, his sister got Parkpre frame with Prestige tubing, and they did a nice custom paint job for her (white with pink and baby blue splatters iirc). The next year, the team I started racing on was sponsored by Parkpre. My teammate (we were juniors) was given a Prestige frame to race on, but he wasn't too happy with how flimsy it rode compared to his Colnago (Masterlight?).


    I didn't hear anything of the company after that, except for a few used bikes for sale, until a couple of years ago when I saw someone doing our local hammer ride on a full carbon Parkpre with Parkpre plastered all over his jersey and shorts. It looks like a nice frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by H1449-6 View Post
    Looking forward to seeing the complete bike. Pity that you're using ShimaNO though.

    I ended up accidentally buying a Campy compatible integrated headset, so if you ever decide to buy a MODERN bike from this century, check back with me to see if I still have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by urbanknight View Post
    ...but he wasn't too happy with how flimsy it rode compared to his Colnago (Masterlight?).
    One of the few reviews I saw said "It's similar to an Orbea, only stiffer...I've ridden both."

    Yikes!

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    looks like a great frame there dstrong, $386 appears to be a solid price for it too. I thought I recall seeing a parkpre bike in one of the Tour's the last few years. As another reference back to the 80's ParkPre here is how my Serotta came to me:



    Apparently it was repainted to match the bikes of a women's racing team in the Dallas area that the owner at the time was working for/with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dstrong View Post
    One of the few reviews I saw said "It's similar to an Orbea, only stiffer...I've ridden both."

    Yikes!
    Oh, this was in the mid 90's with steel frames. Every frame made with Tange Prestige tubing was a little flimsy from what I heard. I don't think most Americans had even heard of Orbea at that time. Parkpre has obviously changed a lot since then.
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    Best looking $386 new frame I've ever seen. Interested to learn more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by urbanknight View Post
    Sorry, tangent, but what's going on with the FD there? It looks like it's an inch or more above the big ring?

    Somebody around here was trying to unload a pair of Parkpre mtb frames in screaming yellow for at least a year. And their current mtb frames have lines more like current carbon road frames than anything I've seen from the 26 crowd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H1449-6 View Post
    Looking forward to seeing the complete bike. Pity that you're using ShimaNO though.

    :tr oll:

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    that's funny (in a disgusting sort of way)

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    Quote Originally Posted by epenthetic View Post
    Sorry, tangent, but what's going on with the FD there? It looks like it's an inch or more above the big ring?
    Junior gear restrictions.
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    Now THAT was an enjoyable way to spend the day!

    The day started with a quick 22 mile ride, knowing that I had a build to do. If you haven't been following the news or if you don't live in the south central part of the country, it's been stinkin' hot the last week. I left the house at 8:30 this morning and it was 87-degrees. I got home around 10 and it was 97. At 9:00 as I write this, it's 95.

    So...today the build took place indoors. I put down a mat and brought my ghetto bike stand in from the garage, set up a folding table for my tools and spread most of the parts on our workout platform. I turned on Wimbledon and got to work.



    I started out marking and cutting the fork...a new experience for me as my other build didn't require any cutting due to a freakishly tall head tube. I had purchased a new 32 TPI hacksaw blade for cutting the carbon and using a suggestion found in the forums, I used a hose clamp to mark off the cut line. Except I found it had a bulge where the clamp part was and thought it would make the cut crooked. So I took an old stem and used it as a guide...worked like a champ and had to make two cuts as the first one didn't give me enough gap to pre-load.

    Got the fork installed and pretty much proceeded without issues...except for my front calipers. I'm not sure what's wrong but they're just no behaving very well. They seem to have some play in their movement so I'll probably take 'em apart to see what's loose.





    After hanging all the components, I set about cabling. That went fairly smoothly and I left certain things a little long in case I need to make changes as I tune the fit.



    I've gotten the shifting close enough to give it a test ride but so far have only straddled the bike, holding onto my workstand for support. I put the max spacers recommended by Ritchey (50mm) given this is a much more aggressive geometry for me but it looks like the seat/handlebar drop isn't that far from what I currently ride.

    I'm hoping to take a short test right tomorrow morning but may not get too much done before church...and aftwards it's be 105 and too dang hot to be messing around with fit outside.

    Overall I've been impressed with the quality of this frame. The headset and bottom brackets went in without trouble and everything seems to be aligned and fit. All the cable stops are riveted in and are painted the same color as the surrounding area (which may mean the frame was painted with the cable stops already installed?).

    I'll provide another update after my test ride and more pics once I've taped the bars. Yes...we do have white garage doors, so I'll get one of those shots posted too.

    Oh...I considered flipping it for the photos but decided against it...so go ahead...somebody say it.

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    Thanks for the posts. I am really enjoying this thread. So far, the bike looks great. I am anxious to hear how it rides. I don't know anything about Parkpre except that, about three years ago, I remember some domestic team racing at the Clarendon Cup crit race in Arlington, VA on their frames. They were CF, very nice looking and tastefully understated in their paint scheme. Hope you enjoy the riding as much as the build process.

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    That's a good looking bike. May I recommend white bar tape?
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    PS. Is that a nominal 58cm frame?
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    Actually, I'm gonna try red bar tape...i saw some yesterday at the LBS and it appears to match the red in the bike quite nicely.

    Regarding size...ParkPre calls it a Large. Effective Top Tube is 58.5, compared to the 61 I've been riding. Head Tube is 190, compared to a Giant TCR of 180. With all the spacers I've got in there right now, I ended up shortening the fork by about 2cm.

    I know you're not a Shimano guy...but I'm sure someone might notice that besides the shifters and the cassette, the other components are 9-speed. It's what I had available to me but I've got notices flowing from eBay for the equivalent 10-speed components.

    Depending on how the Standard Double works out, I might also consider going compact...but I'm hoping this bike will have more effective power transfer from my massive guads, unlike my other bike that always seemed to squander my near-gigawatt output!

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    9 speed crankset and such will be fine.

    The octalink bb's are super smooth. Just buy a couple of 105 ones, and you'll be good to go for the next few years.

    Nice build!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dstrong View Post
    Actually, I'm gonna try red bar tape...i saw some yesterday at the LBS and it appears to match the red in the bike quite nicely.
    Nice, and how about a matching saddle?
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    You mean like this?



    The size of the cutout makes me think the engineer was well endowed (or thought he was).

    At $249 I think the 10-speed components take priority.

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    how about a fizik pave cx?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dstrong View Post
    You mean like this?



    The size of the cutout makes me think the engineer was well endowed (or thought he was).

    At $249 I think the 10-speed components take priority.
    I picked up a Red Aliante for my Merckx for like $45 on eBay. I would try there since that is the saddle you have on there now.

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    ^ That Aliante looks more similar to the one on your bike now than the SMP you realize isn't worth the fortune Selle Italia thinks it is.
    Last edited by urbanknight; 06-28-09 at 09:53 AM.
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    Did the $386 include the fork? Seems unlikely. Also interested in how much shipping was.

    I need a 'splody bike too.

    Looks good so far and looking forward to some ride reports.

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    This was a frame-only purchase. Shipping was $42.

    I road it up and down the street a couple times this morning just to get a feel for the saddle height. First time, too low...next time, too high...next time, pretty close. Everything feels really good although our street is pretty smooth so I'll see once I get on some chip-seal. I can already tell that I can take some spacers out from under the stem.

    I'll have to look for that red saddle but again, probably a lower priority than the 10-speed components.

    One thing I'm thankful for is that I never cut my Thompson seatpost, which is way too long for my Interloc but just right for the ParkPre.

    Unfortunately, given the way this week's shaping up, first real ride probably won't be until Friday morning since our company has the day off.

    And I figured out what was wrong with my front calipers...appears when I re-built them a year ago I had mis-placed a washer, screwing up the clearance on one of the arms. I've remedied the problem and have them back on the bike.

    My barrell adjusters should arrive tomorrow so once I get them on, I'll finish the cabling and bar tape.

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