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Old 07-07-09, 02:12 PM   #1
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Bullet PROOF Road Racing Tires?

Hey Guys,& Gals,

Need a Lil honest advice on respectable Road/Race Tires...

Recently got a ALL Carbon Bike only to learn THE HARD WAY that they too come with CHEAP Tires,& Tubes!

WIPED OUT! HAMMERING a turn on a Downhill Slant,front tire Blew out INSTANTLY while COMPLETELY Commited to the Corner.

I can say this,There is a MINUS to EXTREMELY Light Bikes.Flipped from one 45degree angle to another in the BLINK of an Eye,and came CRASHING down on my Left Shoulder,& the Top of my head still mounted to the Steed!

Road Rash,skidding Grinding yeah,& MULTIPLE Chiroractor Visits.

Shoulders back in place,but the Collarbone may NEVER be...

At any rate,I know there's been MUCH discussion on tires,& I know a LOT of you have had a GREAT Deal of trial,& error with tires,& tubes.And I know a lot of you experience similar riding conditions.

However after POURING through the posts I've found that a LOT of the recomended eqpt. is no longer in production,or has particular drawbacks.

Such as the Conti Gators poking holes in the tubes from the inside bead etc...

Regardless I'm STILL in the same Boat!

I need a Bullet PROOF Tire in the Sidewalls as well as the center.One that has low Rolling Resistace in the Center,& HUGS a turn with the Sidewalls sticking to the Tarmac like GLUE!

LOTS of road debris,shards of gravel Spit,& Washed out onto the roads,broken glass you name it.
Not to Mention SERIOUS hills in my area.

Practically RIPPED a tire off of the Rim Hammering a Sharp Uphill turn at the Lip.After quick correction I saw the tire wobble from left to right.

I'm 6'4" 210lbs,solid,& Fairly Fit.I tend to outwork EVERY tool I use in life so Cycling I expect to be the same to a degree.I ride FAST,& HARD.Slamdancing would probably define my style of riding best.ESPECIALLY in turns.

Not sure that there's ANYTING in production out there that can keep up with me,but I at least have to try,& get my Paws on whatevers the closest to it.

I REALLY would appreciate ALL useful Input on the subject of Dependable Tubes,& Tires in the 23-25cm range usable under EXTREME Road Riding/Racing Conditions.

Cheerz,
Chaz
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Old 07-07-09, 02:13 PM   #2
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bullet vs. tire


bullet wins


seriously, use a well-glued tubular when you race. if they flat, they will stay attached.
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Not sure that there's ANYTING in production out there that can keep up with me,but I at least have to try,& get my Paws on whatevers the closest to it.
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bulletproof is the most overused term in the sport. no tire is bulletproof, everything is a trade-off of some kind.
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Old 07-07-09, 02:34 PM   #6
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Hey Guys,& Gals,

....I'm 6'4" 210lbs,solid,& Fairly Fit.I tend to outwork EVERY tool I use in life so Cycling I expect to be the same to a degree.I ride FAST,& HARD.Slamdancing would probably define my style of riding best.ESPECIALLY in turns.


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The only tire that can keep up with MY world-class ROAD-SLAMMING DEMANDS as one of the planet's GREATEST, toughest (yet unknown) riders is the Vredestein Fortezza SuperLite. http://www.performancebike.com/bikes..._400013_400235

Seriously, I weigh about 200 aszkicking POUNDS, and have been riding these tires HARD and through CRAP that would have flatted the conti GPs I used to run all the time -- even when I'm using the LIGHTEST conti race tubes on the market.

They corner better than any non-tubular tire I've ever ridden and the rolling resistance feels low to the conti GP 4000 and 3000 I've ridden. And I'm TOUGH on tires. TOUGH!

At 180g per tire, I can't believe how tough they are... almost as INCREDIBLY badazs and BULLETPROOF as I am.



Hope this helps.


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The grammar and Capitalizations in This Post are AMAZING.You know,
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There's nothing in production that can keep up with you, sorry.
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I like Conti GP4000s. I don't know about slamdancing, but they're good cornering and good wearing tires. I uses Specialized tubes because that's what the LBS carries. I think they're all the same, anyway.
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I tend to outwork EVERY tool I use in life... Slamdancing would probably define my style of riding best.
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I had a fat friend that decimated bottom brackets because he "slamdanced" on his bike. He stopped riding and is still fat.
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Lose the tires and ride the rims brah, no more flats!
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Hey Guys,& Gals,

Need a Lil honest advice on respectable Road/Race Tires...

Recently got a ALL Carbon Bike only to learn THE HARD WAY that they too come with CHEAP Tires,& Tubes!

WIPED OUT! HAMMERING a turn on a Downhill Slant,front tire Blew out INSTANTLY while COMPLETELY Commited to the Corner.

I can say this,There is a MINUS to EXTREMELY Light Bikes.Flipped from one 45degree angle to another in the BLINK of an Eye,and came CRASHING down on my Left Shoulder,& the Top of my head still mounted to the Steed!

Road Rash,skidding Grinding yeah,& MULTIPLE Chiroractor Visits.

Shoulders back in place,but the Collarbone may NEVER be...

At any rate,I know there's been MUCH discussion on tires,& I know a LOT of you have had a GREAT Deal of trial,& error with tires,& tubes.And I know a lot of you experience similar riding conditions.

However after POURING through the posts I've found that a LOT of the recomended eqpt. is no longer in production,or has particular drawbacks.

Such as the Conti Gators poking holes in the tubes from the inside bead etc...

Regardless I'm STILL in the same Boat!

I need a Bullet PROOF Tire in the Sidewalls as well as the center.One that has low Rolling Resistace in the Center,& HUGS a turn with the Sidewalls sticking to the Tarmac like GLUE!

LOTS of road debris,shards of gravel Spit,& Washed out onto the roads,broken glass you name it.
Not to Mention SERIOUS hills in my area.

Practically RIPPED a tire off of the Rim Hammering a Sharp Uphill turn at the Lip.After quick correction I saw the tire wobble from left to right.

I'm 6'4" 210lbs,solid,& Fairly Fit.I tend to outwork EVERY tool I use in life so Cycling I expect to be the same to a degree.I ride FAST,& HARD.Slamdancing would probably define my style of riding best.ESPECIALLY in turns.

Not sure that there's ANYTING in production out there that can keep up with me,but I at least have to try,& get my Paws on whatevers the closest to it.

I REALLY would appreciate ALL useful Input on the subject of Dependable Tubes,& Tires in the 23-25cm range usable under EXTREME Road Riding/Racing Conditions.

Cheerz,
Chaz
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I agree with Jynx. I think we've reached a new level of epic-ness. It's so... EPIC!
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Specialized Armadillo tires.
If those are to heavy, I've had a great time with the Schwalbe Ultremo DDs
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Damn it I just spent 100 dollars on a pair of Conti Gatorskins!!!! If that doesn't greatly reduce the flats then the whole bike is going in the ditch!!!!
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Damn it I just spent 100 dollars on a pair of Conti Gatorskins!!!! If that doesn't greatly reduce the flats then the whole bike is going in the ditch!!!!
Would you mind telling me exactly which ditch it's going in?
Oh, and what size frame is it?
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and came CRASHING down on my Left Shoulder,& the Top of my head still mounted to the Steed!

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Cheerz,
Chaz
This explains alot.

Although, I'm still unclear why the Top of your head was mounted to your Steed. Wouldn't you have been more comfortable sitting on the saddle?
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hey guys,& gals,

need a lil honest advice on respectable road/race tires...

Recently got a all carbon bike only to learn the hard way that they too come with cheap tires,& tubes!

Wiped out! Hammering a turn on a downhill slant,front tire blew out instantly while completely commited to the corner.

I can say this,there is a minus to extremely light bikes.flipped from one 45degree angle to another in the blink of an eye,and came crashing down on my left shoulder,& the top of my head still mounted to the steed!

Road rash,skidding grinding yeah,& multiple chiroractor visits.

Shoulders back in place,but the collarbone may never be...

At any rate,i know there's been much discussion on tires,& i know a lot of you have had a great deal of trial,& error with tires,& tubes.and i know a lot of you experience similar riding conditions.

However after pouring through the posts i've found that a lot of the recomended eqpt. Is no longer in production,or has particular drawbacks.

Such as the conti gators poking holes in the tubes from the inside bead etc...

Regardless i'm still in the same boat!

I need a bullet proof tire in the sidewalls as well as the center.one that has low rolling resistace in the center,& hugs a turn with the sidewalls sticking to the tarmac like glue!

Lots of road debris,shards of gravel spit,& washed out onto the roads,broken glass you name it.
Not to mention serious hills in my area.

Practically ripped a tire off of the rim hammering a sharp uphill turn at the lip.after quick correction i saw the tire wobble from left to right.

i'm 6'4" 210lbs,solid,& fairly fit.i tend to outwork every tool i use in life so cycling i expect to be the same to a degree.i ride fast,& hard.slamdancing would probably define my style of riding best.especially in turns.

not sure that there's anyting in production out there that can keep up with me,but i at least have to try,& get my paws on whatevers the closest to it.

I really would appreciate all useful input on the subject of dependable tubes,& tires in the 23-25cm range usable under extreme road riding/racing conditions.

Cheerz,
chaz
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I'm gettin' all misty-eyed.


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I just wonder if Our Hero has the BALLS to keep POSTING,or if he's really just an outworked TOOL making his FIRST and only post.
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