SOUL Faith BB30 frame
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Sean,
Here are my thoughts.
1) Good design. Nice paint. I really like the smooth welds of a Canondale. If you can do it like that, then that would be great.
2) The word "Faith" written on the frame. I understand that it has special meaning to you. For me, I don't like it. I like the "Soul" on the bike, but I don't like to have two different huge logos on frames. Just doesn't look right to me. Do you see Trek, Specialized, Merlin, Litespeed, etc doing this? No. You know why? Because it screams stupid looking. And I don't really like the word "faith" written on the bike, and I am VERY religious. It just looks stupid on a bike. I have faith. I don't want it written on my bike.
3) Just my personal opinion, above. Sorry, if it was too harsh. I was considering joining the group buy, but like others I have decided not to. Why? The word faith is so stupid looking written on a bike. I know you have your own reasons why you want it on there, but you could've made a lot more money if you would cater to the demands of the people instead of your own convictions.
Here are my thoughts.
1) Good design. Nice paint. I really like the smooth welds of a Canondale. If you can do it like that, then that would be great.
2) The word "Faith" written on the frame. I understand that it has special meaning to you. For me, I don't like it. I like the "Soul" on the bike, but I don't like to have two different huge logos on frames. Just doesn't look right to me. Do you see Trek, Specialized, Merlin, Litespeed, etc doing this? No. You know why? Because it screams stupid looking. And I don't really like the word "faith" written on the bike, and I am VERY religious. It just looks stupid on a bike. I have faith. I don't want it written on my bike.
3) Just my personal opinion, above. Sorry, if it was too harsh. I was considering joining the group buy, but like others I have decided not to. Why? The word faith is so stupid looking written on a bike. I know you have your own reasons why you want it on there, but you could've made a lot more money if you would cater to the demands of the people instead of your own convictions.
Sorry Sean to sound harsh. You have a good project going. Just giving some feedback and I agree with the majority that don't like the "faith" on the bike. However, it's your project so good luck to you.
And a big F.U. to Fat Boy and that hack timmyguest. Worthless piles.
And a big F.U. to Fat Boy and that hack timmyguest. Worthless piles.
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Like the design and finish, but the weight is bit disappointing. Typical aluminium frame weight around 1200gr and light ones(bianchi fg lite for example) are around 1050gr. BB30 is very nice but there are limited number of BB30 cranks available yet.
I think this frame won't appeal to weight weenies, but for those who want to build a solid race bike, this frame will be great.
I think this frame won't appeal to weight weenies, but for those who want to build a solid race bike, this frame will be great.
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Built
Here are a couple of pics of the frame built. Note that the fork is not the final version but since the forks have not arrived we have used another white fork we use for our other frame, hence the uncut steerer. Will shoot some better pics once the final fork arrives.
The frame is built as such:
Shifter + Rear D: Sram Rival
Brakes: Soul Frixion
Crankset: FSA Gossamer (unmoded)
Wheelset: Soul C4.0
Bar + Stem + Seatpost: Soul Aluminium
Saddle: Soul Union
Overall weight not including pedals and cages is 7.1kg / 15.65lbs.
Frame weight has been cut by 50g as we changed the tubing spec. I will post up the expected weights for all sizes later in the day.
Groupbuy price is USD350 excluding shipping (I'm only including this here as many people have asked. I will update the groupbuy thread accordingly). It will include:
Frame
Fork
Headset
BB Adapter
We will also offer the gossamer and Force BB30 cranksets as options.
The frame is built as such:
Shifter + Rear D: Sram Rival
Brakes: Soul Frixion
Crankset: FSA Gossamer (unmoded)
Wheelset: Soul C4.0
Bar + Stem + Seatpost: Soul Aluminium
Saddle: Soul Union
Overall weight not including pedals and cages is 7.1kg / 15.65lbs.
Frame weight has been cut by 50g as we changed the tubing spec. I will post up the expected weights for all sizes later in the day.
Groupbuy price is USD350 excluding shipping (I'm only including this here as many people have asked. I will update the groupbuy thread accordingly). It will include:
Frame
Fork
Headset
BB Adapter
We will also offer the gossamer and Force BB30 cranksets as options.
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well, there's my next bike
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Looks sharp
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And I just wanted to add...
Sean, the fact that the word "Faith" on the frame would actually encourage me to buy one.
Stick to your guns dude...no excuses, no regrets.
Sean, the fact that the word "Faith" on the frame would actually encourage me to buy one.
Stick to your guns dude...no excuses, no regrets.
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the decals on the C4.0 are different from the ones on your site. will those be available soon as well?
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Finally! That is a sweet looking bike!
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P.S. White fork is hot. Even if it is still in the Soul Trinity graphics.
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I was not interested in this frame at all, until you posted the last picture, and price.
I am extremly interested now.
I am extremly interested now.
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seatpost-diameter 27,2 or 31,6 ?
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what's up with the Soul website? Can't get it to come up for days now.
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Im curious - what's the cost of the bike as pictured?
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Do you have pictures of larger frames?
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Yes, these are our new decals. In fact most of the wheels will have new decals when the new stock is released. However do note the Carbon rim decals need a little more time as they were done in a gloss finish and we are waiting for replacements.
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The complete bike as shown is approx 2.1K USD. Seatpost is 27.2mm. We don't have pics of other frame sizes as of yet.
Just finished discussions with our manufacturer and unfortunately the frame weight cannot be reduced as we are already making them triple butted and they are pretty thin gauge right now. Generally the frame weights are +50g per size up. Final weights will be confirmed shortly.
Just finished discussions with our manufacturer and unfortunately the frame weight cannot be reduced as we are already making them triple butted and they are pretty thin gauge right now. Generally the frame weights are +50g per size up. Final weights will be confirmed shortly.
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Any idea of the M/L frame weight (I remember small size being 1200 grams IIRC)? Is it gooing to be around 1300 grams? And any idea how much the shipping will cost for East Coast USA?
Thanks,
Thanks,
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God-DAMN that is one sexy bike!!! Damn shame I just bought a Streetfire and am about to get a Damocles, else I would have been on this like a priest on a 10 year old (to keep the religious theme going).
As is, I will take consolation in the fact that most people on the group buy will be getting humped on international shipping rates for frames. Welcome to my world, suckas.
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As is, I will take consolation in the fact that most people on the group buy will be getting humped on international shipping rates for frames. Welcome to my world, suckas.
V.
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