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Old 10-17-09, 08:25 PM
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I hope to ride with pcad one of these days. (It better not be raining).
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The idiots who run CA should write a new law for all people moving here: In addition to needing a pile of money, BYOW (W=water). Two inches of rain on Monday, so it should be dry the rest of the winter.
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The idiots who run CA...
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^ He's got a lot of help in Sacramento.
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Actually the bigger issue are the idiots he is trying to coral in Sacramento, and all the propositions that got passed.

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Originally Posted by Gorden Gekko
I really envy all of you who live in CA, TX, AZ and any other warm climate. It must be nice to ride and not look like the kid from A Christmas story.

And well you should. We had a glorious ride today. Several area bloggers got together, many of us meeting face-to-face for the first time, and rode around Fort Worth. I think the temps were in the 60s during the ride; it was just perfect.





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^ Fixie hipsters.

Keep at though, cuz you're the next generation of roadies. One day all the old farts will have to retire the CF "rode" bike.
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^ Fixie hipsters.

Keep at though, cuz you're the next generation of roadies. One day all the old farts will have to retire the CF "rode" bike.
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Last night, just as darkness descended over the city, a group of us rode from mid-town Los Angeles to the ocean (Marina del Rey Bridge) and back along the Ballona Creek bike path - temps in the 70s.
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A group is the only way I'd ever ride Ballona Creek (or any other river path in LA) at night.
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A group is the only way I'd ever ride Ballona Creek (or any other river path in LA) at night.
On one of these?
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Tell me about this mysterious Ballona Creek
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Originally Posted by diziet
Tell me about this mysterious Ballona Creek
Nothing mysterious about it... at least not the bike path part*. It's just that the river trails are secluded from public view, making it a prime place for thugs to mug people. There have been stories of people getting knocked off their bikes just for an ipod. The victims are almost always alone.

*What floats down Ballona Creek, essentially a drainage wash that goes through some of the most polulated parts of Los Angeles, is a whole other story. I've heard claims of refrigerators and VW bugs on their way out to sea. Whether those are true or not, I'm sure chemicals and plenty of other stuff you're not supposed to dump make it down that way.
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I may seem like the blacksheep in this thread, but I'm actually enjoying riding during these two noreasters this weekend.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
Nothing mysterious about it... at least not the bike path part*. It's just that the river trails are secluded from public view, making it a prime place for thugs to mug people. There have been stories of people getting knocked off their bikes just for an ipod. The victims are almost always alone.

*What floats down Ballona Creek, essentially a drainage wash that goes through some of the most polulated parts of Los Angeles, is a whole other story. I've heard claims of refrigerators and VW bugs on their way out to sea. Whether those are true or not, I'm sure chemicals and plenty of other stuff you're not supposed to dump make it down that way.
When I lived in Culver City, I often went down to the Marina and back along that path. Most of the time it was in the daytime, with a few nighttime rides with a friend. What often took me by surprise was all the glass along that path. No doubt kids used it as a party hangout at night and smashed their beer bottles along the walkway. Despite that, I flatted just once.

You're right about that creek mainly being a drainage run. The natural water creek itself begins in West Hollywood near Santa Monica Blvd, between Robertson and LaCienega. The water comes out of the hills. Years ago a "lady" friend of mine lived in that neighborhood, and from walking around with her I learned that the city was having a problem with the underground water flow shifting and surfacing at random places throughout that neighborhood. It would ultimately flow into the drainage system that was put in place along La Cienega.

Do you recall that movie Volcano with Tommy Lee Jones and Ann Heche? The big moment was when they figured out they could use the underground flood control creek along La Cienega to channel the "hot liquid magma" out to the ocean. That's the Ballona creek.
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Do you recall that movie Volcano with Tommy Lee Jones and Ann Heche? The big moment was when they figured out they could use the underground flood control creek along La Cienega to channel the "hot liquid magma" out to the ocean. That's the Ballona creek.
Yep, I remember that movie. Despite being rather unrealistic, I thought it was pretty good.
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Yep, I remember that movie. Despite being rather unrealistic, I thought it was pretty good.
Parts of it were OK, but there's also a lot of JFC moments. I think Ann Heche even pulls the "I've fallen and I can't get up because my ankle is sore" move as "hot liquid magma" approaches her at .25 mph.
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I'm pretty sure you can get hepatitis from the water

I used to row crew on that river and it is pretty nasty at times. The first time I rowed in a single I capsized and swallowed some of that water. It was just utterly disgusting and I almost vomited.

Oh and besides all the stories about thugs, the path path is littered with ninja riders at night (common on many paths?)
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Originally Posted by LoneCyclone
Florida?
Florida brings up a good question. If you check out Wikipedia "Southern California", then you will realize the enormity and breadth of riding terrain in So Calif. Admittedly, one needs to drive to different areas, but the bike ride choices makes So Calif one of the better places to be.
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Originally Posted by KiddSisko
^ Fixie hipsters.

Keep at though, cuz you're the next generation of roadies. One day all the old farts will have to retire the CF "rode" bike.
We actually had a pretty wide age range and several types of bikes. The pics I posted were from someone else's blog; I finally put up my own entry here. We had some fixie hipsters but we also had a recumbent, a utility bike (pulling a trailer with the rider's daughter on board), several geared bikes, and my Raleigh DL-1 3-speed.
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Originally Posted by Doohickie
We actually had a pretty wide age range and several types of bikes. The pics I posted were from someone else's blog; I finally put up my own entry here. We had some fixie hipsters but we also had a recumbent, a utility bike (pulling a trailer with the rider's daughter on board), several geared bikes, and my Raleigh DL-1 3-speed.
Beer at a bike shop!? Brilliant!


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Originally Posted by urbanknight
California does have its down sides, and I would point them out to level the playing field with any state... except New York. I just can't find an upside to living there.
it's the food. and the center of the universe.
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Originally Posted by DScott
No, no, no! You have it all wrong.

California is a crime infested, polluted, earthquake/flood/fire death trap, with a broke government and over-priced real estate. Please stay away, for the children's sake! And take a few people with you...

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Beer at a bike shop!? Brilliant!
I think they get away with it by virtue of not actually charging for the beer; otherwise they would need a liquor license. I remember that when a Hooters opened up nearby, they didn't get their license right away and had a policy of giving each customer of legal drinking age up to 2 free beers until their liquor license was approved.
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