Jase5

...for crits? I have the Pro-Lite Gavias in mind which are Front 1002 g , Rear 1170 g at 50mm deep. How suitable are these for flat-ish crit racing under a light 130lb rider? Thanks!

gregf83 

I would think that at 130 lbs you shouldn't be spending a lot of time up front in which case the aero benefits of the deeper profile wheels would be minimal and offset by the extra weight that you will need to accelerate a few hundred times during the course of the race.

DrPete 

There should be some kind of law that says a wheelset that's over 2kg doesn't get to have "Lite" anywhere in the name.

robncircus

That seems steep in weight for 50mm rims. Even Williams 58 clinchers fall in the 1800 range.

tubescreamerx

depends on your typical strategy for these crits. are you a breakaway rider? do you sit in for the first 75% of the race? do you respond to every attack?

we need more info

veloboy971

they're "lite" on the wallet compared to Zipp 404's

Flatballer

And anything that weighs 2200g needs "Heavy" in the name.

https://www.cambriabike.com/shopexd.a...0WHEELS%202009


These Mavic Downhill MTB wheels weigh 2260g. You could probably throw them off a building and then ride off.

Just sayin'.

Jase5

Thanks for all the quick replies. I'm fairly new to racing and normally I don't give too much care to equipment but I can get this fairly cheaply at the moment and I'm racing on Shimano R500s right now. Since I'm new to racing, I'm spending most of the time playing catch up and haven't quite developed a style as of yet. I know everyone is going to say develop the engine first but I can get them really quite cheaply and they would be seen as a investment for the future.

What style of riding would these wheels best suit? Thanks again guys.

patentcad

Impressive technology. How do you get wheels to be that heavy? Top secret heavy metals?

tubescreamerx

I personally don't think any deal is worth a 2200g set of road bike wheels. you can get a 1421g wheelset for $275 so unless you're paying $100 or less, I really don't think it's worth it... just my opinion.

rwortman

Thanks for that link. Nice wheels and nice prices. I will bookmark that one.

Jase5

So the consensus is that the boat anchor weight of these wheels negates any aero effects of a 50mm rim? I almost wasted a few hundred bucks! I thought they were cheap compared to the other 50mm clinchers on the market but in hindsight still aren't very cheap. The search continues...

531Aussie

The '500' series Shimano wheels (assuming the ones in the ones in this list aren't too different from what you have) aren't too "unaero", and probably much lighter. I have Token C50a clinchers, which use the same Gigantex rims as the Pro-lites, and are about the same weight. I don't like them much for crits, coz they feel a little dead to me when I accelerate. I don't think it's the weight, coz they'e about the same as my 32-spoke DT RR 1.2s, which feel much more lively; it could be a bit of flex -- I dunno


Drag at 50 kph

https://www.rouesartisanales.over-blo...-15505311.html

.....................................................drag (w).......rim depth (mm)......spokes

Zipp 808 2007.....................................16.7............82...................18
Xentis MK 1 TT 2007............................17.1............58....................4
Citec 6000 Cx 2007.............................19.2............49..................12
Ritchey WCS Carbon 2005...................19.3............58..................16
HED 3 2006..........................................19.7............54...................3
Zipp 404 2007......................................19.9............58..................18
Sonic Super 50mm 2007.......................20.4............50.................20
Vuelta Carbon Pro WR 2006.................20.8............58..................12
Corima Aero 2007.................................21.0............45..................18
Easton Tempest II 2005.......................21.6............58..................18
CKT Splendor 2005...............................21.7............45..................16
Mavic Cosmic Carbone SL ....................21.9............52..................16
Lightweight Standard G3 2007.............22.2............53...................16
Shimano WH7801 Carbon 50 2006.......22.9............50..................16
Mavic Cosmic Carbone Ultimate ...........22.9............40..................20
Campagnolo Bora 2005........................23.0............50....................18
Rose Aerospoke 2006...........................23.0............53.....................4
Corima Turbospoke 2006......................23.1............38.....................3
Shimano WH7850 C50 2007.................23.2............50...................16
Bontrager Race light Carbon 2005........23.4............43...................16
Lew Racing Pro VT-1 2007....................23.4............46...................16
Shimano WH7850 C24 2007.................23.5............28...................16
Corima Tune 20 Aerolite 2007...............23.7............45....................20
Fulcrum Racing Speed 2006..................23.7............50....................18
Specialized Royal Rapid Star 2007.........23.8............32....................20
Gipiemme Carbon 5.5 2005...................24.1............55...................20
Tune Olympic Gold 2005........................24.1............45....................16
Shimano WH7801 Carbon 2006.............24.4............29...................16
FRM FL-R 23 SD 2006.............................24.6............37...................20
Lightweight Standard G3 2007..............24.6............53...................20
Lightweight Obermayer G1 2005...........24.8............53..................20
American Classic 420 2007....................24.9............34...................18
Ritchey Pro 2007...................................24.9............27...................20
Xentis Mark 1 2005 ..............................25.0............42.....................4
Speedcomposites Sinus 2007...............25.2............26.....................24
Citec 3000s Aero 2005..........................25.5............30...................12
Shimano R550 2007..............................25.9............24...................20
Shimano R560 2006..............................26.1............24....................16
Shimano R561 2007..............................26.2............24....................16
Campagnolo Scirocco 2007....................27.3............24....................20
Lightweight Ventoux 2006.....................27.3............28.....................20
Fulcrum Racing 5 Evolution 2007............27.6............24....................20
Campagnolo Eurus 2006........................27.8............24..................16
Tune Skyline KOM 2006..........................28.1............24.....................20
Mavic Aksium 2008.................................28.3............22....................20
Xtreme Light Wheels 2007.....................28.6............31.....................24
FSA RD-600 2006...................................28.7............30....................18
Easton Vista SL 2007.............................30.0............30.....................20
Mavic Aksium Race 2006.........................30.0............21.....................20
Mavic Ksyrium Equipe 2007.....................30.0............23.....................20
Citec 3000s Aero 16-spoke.....................30.6............24.....................16
Mavic Aksium Race 2007.........................31.1............21...................20
Ambrosio X-Carbo 2005..........................31.5............46...................28
Campagnolo Vento 2007.........................31.5............24...................24
A-Class ALX 440 SL 2007.........................31.9............23...................20
Campagnolo Hyperon 2006......................32.1............19...................22
Fulcrum Racing 7 2007..............................32.8............24...................20
Mavic Ksyrium ES 2006.............................33.2............21...................18
Mavic R-SYS 2007.....................................35.0............22.................16

SharpStone30888

Lead nipples

531Aussie

According to Bop Dopolina's site, the 50mm Gigantex clinchers rims are 690g each, plus or minus 20g!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.bdopcycling.com/GroupBuys-Rims.asp

SharpStone30888

Using 531's list of aerodynamic wheels, what is a good budget one on that list (i'm guessing towards the bottom of the list).

Those zips are crazy. I checked out the price. $AUD5,000 for a pair OMG WTF!!

But yea, whats a good budget one (value for money)? I'm looking at getting into triathlons.

Chris