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Old 01-18-10, 07:42 PM
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Nice and Funny article on Wind and Cycling

From BBC nontheless.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A23428541

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If there's only you, then you'll just have to tough it out. Try to make yourself as small as possible. On most bikes, this will mean keeping your knees and elbows in close while leaning over so that your forehead is touching the handlebars. It's not particularly comfortable.

Some good news then, hunkering-down-wise, is that stretching out on a recumbent bike gives a much lower profile with respect to the wind than folding up like a bat and is also much more comfortable.
...Think of yourself as a salmon swimming upstream, there to spawn briefly and then die of exhaustion.
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Thanks for sharing

I hate the wind. hills give back (usually) wind doesn't.

I ride annually in Cornwall (UK), there have been times where I have been cycling down 7-8% slopes and have had to pedal because of a head wind.


"but if your trip is more than even a few miles, you will have plenty of time to ponder such things. "

So true about so many things.
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Well written article. I'm not so sure about the wind not giving back though. I've had quite a few of those 'theoretical' tailwind experiences that have been the best rides of my life.
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What I was getting at is that if you start and finish at the same point then the rollers "even out"*, byt we've all ridden loops where the wind seems to be constantly blowing against us.

* unless you live in an MC Escher universe
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"A 20mph wind directly at your side will not slow you down at all, unless of course it causes you to fall over."

-- This is not actually true. Even though a side wind doesn't contribute (vector-wise) to any head-wind, it still slows you down. Someone (merlinextraligh?) had a nice link + graph the last time we went over this. (Mathematically, it's because the force vector is not linearly related to the apparent wind vector.)

The other day, after getting hammered by the wind and my club mates the previous day, I went 3 hours downwind (at a very comfortable pace) and took the train home.
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Originally Posted by rollin
I hate the wind. hills give back (usually) wind doesn't.
Incorrect.
Many properly planned rides I do make me feel like an old man at the beginning, and Cancellara by the end.
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You can't take a bike article talking about salmons and 'bents seriously. Except for the dark and light leave wind vane of course

Originally Posted by Pedaleur
"A 20mph wind directly at your side will not slow you down at all, unless of course it causes you to fall over."

-- This is not actually true. Even though a side wind doesn't contribute (vector-wise) to any head-wind, it still slows you down. Someone (merlinextraligh?) had a nice link + graph the last time we went over this. (Mathematically, it's because the force vector is not linearly related to the apparent wind vector.)

The other day, after getting hammered by the wind and my club mates the previous day, I went 3 hours downwind (at a very comfortable pace) and took the train home.
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Originally Posted by Pedaleur
"A 20mph wind directly at your side will not slow you down at all, unless of course it causes you to fall over."

-- This is not actually true. Even though a side wind doesn't contribute (vector-wise) to any head-wind, it still slows you down. Someone (merlinextraligh?) had a nice link + graph the last time we went over this. (Mathematically, it's because the force vector is not linearly related to the apparent wind vector.)

The other day, after getting hammered by the wind and my club mates the previous day, I went 3 hours downwind (at a very comfortable pace) and took the train home.
I'm pretty sure it was all tongue and cheek.
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Originally Posted by logdrum
You can't take a bike article talking about salmons and 'bents seriously. Except for the dark and light leave wind vane of course
Originally Posted by crhilton
I'm pretty sure it was all tongue and cheek.
Heh. Oops.

At least I didn't comment on the falling over part.
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Originally Posted by Metzinger
Incorrect.
Many properly planned rides I do make me feel like an old man at the beginning, and Cancellara by the end.
This. Many are the times I've ridden 5 miles past my house just so I can turn around and fly with that sweet, sweet tailwind.
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Originally Posted by Metzinger
Incorrect.
Many properly planned rides I do make me feel like an old man at the beginning, and Cancellara by the end.
I always end up riding into the wind, then as soon as I hit my turnaround, the wind shifts and I ride home into the wind.

Le sigh.
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No reference to elevation. A sea level 20mph wind has more oomph than other (everything else equal) 20mph winds.
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Another thing you can do is drop the shoulder that's catching the most wind by gripping drop with that hand and hood with the other. Most winds are not head on.

Also, wear form-fitting clothing. All too often I see guys wearing clothes that are too big/pliable that act like sails.

I usually pull when riding into the wind with a group - one of the few advantages of the "euro cut" upper body. I usually ride other riders of similar fitness off my wheel when riding into a decent headwind.
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Originally Posted by YOJiMBO20
I always end up riding into the wind, then as soon as I hit my turnaround, the wind shifts and I ride home into the wind.

Le sigh.

plus un
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Originally Posted by Pilsley
No reference to elevation. A sea level 20mph wind has more oomph than other (everything else equal) 20mph winds.
I always knew people who rode up mountains were wussies
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