garysol1 

See video then follow the link to a thread from a popular motorcyclist forum. Some interesting views...

discussion


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36R8nL2x0D4

Stray8

It's a lot easier to go wide on a turn if you're on a two-wheeled one-track vehicle (e.g. bicycle or motorcycle) than a car. I've seen videos of head on collisions between sportbikes coming opposite ways into a turn.

This incident is only different because the one going wide is the bicyclist.

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fazzman

I think i would have pooped in my bib.

garysol1 

The discussion in the motorcycle forum was more what I wanted you guys to see. Pretty sad all the anti bicycle comments from motorcyclists.

silversx80

Nobody likes to be stuck behind anyone going slower than they want to go, especially when they can't pass them. It's just a fact of the road.

Bicycles on the road are no different than that blue-hair in the crown vic that can't see over the dash, trying to find the country kitchen. Or... how about being on your bicycle, going 55 down a mountain pass and having to slow down for the harley going the speed limit?

DXchulo

That's really pretty tame on that message board. I've seen much worse from non-cyclists.

garysol1 

Agree with ya....As a motorcyclist myself though, I thought other motorcyclists had a little more respect for there 2 wheeled brethren. Oh well.

Quel

Agreed. It's the internet. That's about as tame as it gets.

agoodale

Not a bad discussion for an internet forum. There seem to be plenty of cyclists in that forum that are holding their own against the ignorant few.

Wanderer

I ride a motorcycle, a lot.

I would feel the same way, no matter who had done that!

That bicycle rider is an idiot, and very lucky he isn't DEAD.

Worse yet, he could have killed someone else.

Velo Vol 

Newspaper article comments can be (much) worse.

robncircus

Lucky guy. That's not a stretch of road to push your descending skills on. However, that stretch is notorious for out of control vehicles of all types... motorcycles go down frequently, cars drive off the edge, and cyclists have issues too. I live that climb but hate the descent.

banerjek

Very tame discussion. The cyclist is an idiot and/or is unfamiliar with the road. Good thing everyone involved was going pretty slow and had decent reflexes.

hodie21

I think he may have pooped in his pants on that one.

Looks like he went through the turn a little too fast and lost it.

Daytrip

Whenever I get close enough to motorcyclists on the road to speak to them (stop light, etc.) I usually smile and say something like "Great day to be out on two wheels."

San Rensho 

This video is a very good example of why you never use the REAR brake! He locked it up and had not cotrol whatsoever. If he had just used his front brake, he never would have gone flying all over the road. Bet he soiled his bibs.

a_phat_beat

i agree with this. had that been that facebook group that's out to kill cyclists, there'd be a wave started.
in any case it appears as if he just lost control, and LUCKILY it didn't end catastrophically. and a good heads up by the motorist and that dude on the motorcycle in the rear.

graphs

Yeah, it doesn't look like the cyclist is trying to be rad by flailing into oncoming traffic or something. He lost control and was probably scared as hell. Luckily the outcome is only as bad as minor humiliation on the internet.

Stray8

I'm a motorcyclist and I post on a sister site (esportbike.com) and believe me for motorcyclists that is tame. A tard is a tard whether on 2 wheels or four. I don't see bike hatred so much as tard hatred. The "get them off the road" type comment is relative to the road (one of the relatively few twisty ones suited for canyon carving). I'd hate to come up face to face with a bicyclist there and I'm a bicyclist.

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Hot Potato

The motorcyclist had awesome skills and reaction. He Gave the cyclist as much room as quick as he could, and ended up on the edge of the road with no more room to spare. Some on the motorcycle bulletin board never road on two wheels, which is why they asked how that could happen. Motorcyle or bike, you run wide on a turn because you enter too hot, and you can't or won't lean far enough to hold your line. I disagree that the rear brake caused the cyclist's problem. He wasn't just too hot into that curve, he was beyond salvaging the turn in any way except for what he did. When faced with a curve that is impossible to lean and turn through because of your speed, the best bet is to straighten the bike up, brake maximally, then lean over again once enough speed has been scrubbed off. Hopefully, this happens before you face plant into the cliff wall, go head first off the cliff, or become a hood ornament. If you make the decision that you can't make the turn early enough, you have more room to straighten up and maximally brake before you run into things. Look at the cyclist. He is straight up, smoke (not water?) coming from the wheels, then he releases the brakes at the last second before impact with the motorcyclist and attempts to turn. The motorcyclist did a similar move. He straightened the bike up, which served the dual purpose of getting him to the outside of the curve and letting him safely grab a handful of brake.

Glad it wasn't an SUV that ran wide on that curve. The cyclist is awefuly lucky it wasn't an SUV going uphill as well.

tspek

I've always felt that riding a bicycle and motorcycle has made me better (safer) at both. I see Gary's point and tend to agree...in fact, where I live it's not all that uncommon for a motorcyclist to wave at me.

nahh

the cyclist was out of control. that was completely his fault. even if there hadn't been a car there, he wasn't set to make that turn at that speed, even using the other lane. guy should'a slowed down!

Tsuru

Man, that cyclist got lucky! I think if the motorcycles weren't there he would've went head first into that car?

shuffles

Gary, good posts on your part. I posted too. I don't have a sport bike, but have had a Vespa since grad school, so I'm a fully licensed motorcyclist in Ohio as well.

It's really pretty unbelievable the way people feel about us on the road.

crhilton

Unless you're on a motorcycle and it's a bicycle, in which case you go right by in the same lane...