Water in wheels, normal?
03-17-10, 11:19 AM
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Water in wheels, normal?
We went through a few spots of rain on our group ride over this past weekend (91 miles) and the next day I noticed my wheels were full of water, unfortunately I didn't notice until I finished a 30 mile ride. I had to take the tire off to get it all out. You could hear it sloshing around when you turned the wheel.
Is this normal or is it just my particular wheels? I currently ride on Roval Fusee EL 28 wheels which have hidden nipples. I have new wheels coming (Easton EA90 SLX) which aren't as deep and don't have hidden nipples, will they be less prone to the water problem?
Is this normal or is it just my particular wheels? I currently ride on Roval Fusee EL 28 wheels which have hidden nipples. I have new wheels coming (Easton EA90 SLX) which aren't as deep and don't have hidden nipples, will they be less prone to the water problem?
03-17-10, 11:22 AM
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Not sure if it's normal but I found a bunch of salt in my old Fulcrum 7 front wheel. I'm guessing there was water in there along with it at some point.
03-17-10, 11:45 AM
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It's normal
03-17-10, 11:49 AM
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Never seen this on my road tubes, but MTB tubes often come talced to combat this. You could try a little of that on the tube or inside of the tire.
03-17-10, 11:56 AM
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Normal isn't a word that I would use but it's certainly common.
If you think about it, anytime you ride in the rain water collecting on your spokes is pushed by centrifugal force out toward your rim. A wheel with hidden nipple pockets is going to collect more water than a conventional wheel. If it was my bike I'd remove the tire and rim tape to let them air out.
If you think about it, anytime you ride in the rain water collecting on your spokes is pushed by centrifugal force out toward your rim. A wheel with hidden nipple pockets is going to collect more water than a conventional wheel. If it was my bike I'd remove the tire and rim tape to let them air out.
03-17-10, 12:18 PM
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never heard of it having anything to do with water.
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03-17-10, 12:53 PM
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Main Entry: 1nor·mal
Pronunciation: \ˈnȯr-məl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin normalis, from norma
Date: circa 1696
1 : perpendicular; especially : perpendicular to a tangent at a point of tangency
2 a : according with, constituting, or not deviating from a norm, rule, or principle b : conforming to a type, standard, or regular pattern
3 : occurring naturally <normal immunity>
I would say that it fits the definition of "normal" in that it conforms to a regular pattern and it occurs naturally, i.e. when nothing is wrong.
Pronunciation: \ˈnȯr-məl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin normalis, from norma
Date: circa 1696
1 : perpendicular; especially : perpendicular to a tangent at a point of tangency
2 a : according with, constituting, or not deviating from a norm, rule, or principle b : conforming to a type, standard, or regular pattern
3 : occurring naturally <normal immunity>
I would say that it fits the definition of "normal" in that it conforms to a regular pattern and it occurs naturally, i.e. when nothing is wrong.
03-17-10, 01:08 PM
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I wouldn't say it happens in a standard, regular pattern. Can it occur? Yes. Does it happen regularly? Once again, depends on whom you ask. It's never happened to me and I ride in the rain quite often. However, that's not to say it doesn't happen to others on a regular basis.
Normal would tend to infer that if your wheels don't retain water you're in the minority, which only a randomized controlled clinical trial would definitively conclude. As above in 2a: "according with, constituting, or not deviating from a norm, rule, or principle." I don't consider water retaining wheels to coincide with a set "rule" or "principle." Guess it depends which part of the definition of normal above you wish to adhere. I'm guessing as you view water in wheels "normal", you're biased towards 2b based on your personal experience.
You say tomato......I say I'm right
Normal would tend to infer that if your wheels don't retain water you're in the minority, which only a randomized controlled clinical trial would definitively conclude. As above in 2a: "according with, constituting, or not deviating from a norm, rule, or principle." I don't consider water retaining wheels to coincide with a set "rule" or "principle." Guess it depends which part of the definition of normal above you wish to adhere. I'm guessing as you view water in wheels "normal", you're biased towards 2b based on your personal experience.
You say tomato......I say I'm right
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Not unusual is "normal" enough for me.
03-17-10, 01:44 PM
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I'm partial to "perpendicular to a tangent at a point of tangency".
Seems to describe so much of what is "normal" on BF...
Seems to describe so much of what is "normal" on BF...
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Do I need to worry about it with latex tubes? Butyl tubes?
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03-17-10, 02:39 PM
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So if, like the OP, you discover you have water sloshing around in your rims do you say "That's normal" and leave it there or do you make an effort to drain it out?
03-17-10, 02:41 PM
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"Normal" is a neutral word, bad things can happen regularly and they are still considered normal.
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03-17-10, 02:49 PM
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For thought processes, normal implies thinking like I do.
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Normal implies that no failure caused it to happen. Water entered through no fault of the rider or equipment.
It's normal for water to enter the wheel when riding in the rain.
That doesn't mean it's normal to leave the water in the wheel.
It's normal to get a flat tire when riding.
That doesn't mean it's normal to keep riding on the flat.
Hope that cleared things up
It's normal for water to enter the wheel when riding in the rain.
That doesn't mean it's normal to leave the water in the wheel.
It's normal to get a flat tire when riding.
That doesn't mean it's normal to keep riding on the flat.
Hope that cleared things up
03-17-10, 03:05 PM
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I don't think that you and I are going to agree on "normal" I'm thinking that normal, at least for a bicycle, implies that nothing is wrong or needs fixing. A flat tire, while common, is an abnormal condition and is normalized by fixing the flat.
For thought processes, normal implies thinking like I do.
For thought processes, normal implies thinking like I do.
03-17-10, 03:08 PM
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Normal implies that no failure caused it to happen. Water entered through no fault of the rider or equipment.
It's normal for water to enter the wheel when riding in the rain.
That doesn't mean it's normal to leave the water in the wheel.
It's normal to get a flat tire when riding.
That doesn't mean it's normal to keep riding on the flat.
Hope that cleared things up
It's normal for water to enter the wheel when riding in the rain.
That doesn't mean it's normal to leave the water in the wheel.
It's normal to get a flat tire when riding.
That doesn't mean it's normal to keep riding on the flat.
Hope that cleared things up
I actually thought we settled on the fact that water in the wheel is not normal at all, it's just "not unusual." Or common at best, depending on your experiences.
03-17-10, 03:10 PM
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The OP asked if it is normal to fill up with water from riding in the rain "or just my particular wheels"
It is a normal result of riding in the rain, and is not particular to his wheels.
03-17-10, 03:12 PM
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Ok, you can look at it this way. A flat tire is an abnormal condition for a fully functional bicycle, but it is a normal part of the cycling experience.
The OP asked if it is normal to fill up with water from riding in the rain "or just my particular wheels"
It is a normal result of riding in the rain, and is not particular to his wheels.
The OP asked if it is normal to fill up with water from riding in the rain "or just my particular wheels"
It is a normal result of riding in the rain, and is not particular to his wheels.
maybe you need to type it slower or use bigger letters.