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Old 04-09-10, 11:23 AM
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If the OP is really a troll, can't the mods take him out back and give him a stern talking-to?
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You can be a troll without violating any rules.
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Originally Posted by liquefied
I'm convinced neurosport is a sociopath based on his own admission that he didn't recognize his behavior as a troll until someone pointed it out to him combined with the fact that it doesn't seem to have changed the way he posts either.

Or maybe he's just a really exceptional troll.
In his first thread, he pretty-much admitted he was a troll. The "didn't recognize his behavior" was more trollish BS.

Once a troll, always a troll.

The post starting this thread is too stupid for words. And it's not much different than his first trolling post.

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get a 94/70/56 that's what i use
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Originally Posted by umd
You can be a troll without violating any rules.
True. But a repeat offender still should get a warning from the mods IMO, even if he hasn't technically broken the rules.
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Hey I just noticed I am closing in on 2k posts. Not sure if this is something to be proud of or ashamed of.
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Still less than 10% of umd and only 5% of you-know-who.


edit: that was a triple posting, apropos to the topic, for those who missed it.

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Originally Posted by Yaniel
a 53x11 at just 90 rpm will get you to 34 mph. if you can't pedal at 90 rpm you need to work on that. if you can consistently ride at 34 mph on the flats you need to go pro.
if Ullrich spins at 80 and Lance at 100 does that mean one of them is doing it wrong ? or does that mean that they have different genetics ?

with my genetics i need to spin slow. i am trying to work on getting the cadence up a bit but it naturally tends towards 50 or so. i will keep working on that but i have to ultimately listen to my body, not some numbers taken from other people.

if i spin faster i won't be able to put down more power - in fact i will put down less - the only thing that i might achieve this way is my legs might get smaller so i might get lighter and this way faster. however i don't want smaller legs.
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1. Switching to an 11-28 cassette would be cheaper (you don't say what you have now though
i have what appears to be 6600 Ultegra 53/39 front 12-25 rear. its a 2007 year bike.
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Originally Posted by tspek
Wait 'till you try shifting on a tripple.
i have a triple on MTB but i can't compare because the shifters are very different.

whats wrong with shifting on the triple ?
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Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT
i have a 53/39 right now and i feel at the same time that 53 is not enough on the flats and that 39 is too much on the climbs ( i am fat, climbs are difficult )

also at the same time shifting from 39 to 53 is quite sketchy.

i would ideally want something like 56/44/34

i mean i would be fine with just 56/34 but somehow i don't think that would work ?

or should i simply lose some fat ass and go for 55/42 ?
OP, you can get a 55/44/34. Then you might want to consider a 10 speed 28-50 cassette.
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if Ullrich spins at 80 and Lance at 100 does that mean one of them is doing it wrong ?
No, it doesn't mean one of them is doing it wrong, but it means you are doing it wrong.
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Originally Posted by lambo_vt
get a 94/70/56 that's what i use
Are this you anatomical measurements?
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Originally Posted by umd
No, it doesn't mean one of them is doing it wrong, but it means you are doing it wrong.
+1

I am not sure if the OP is receptive to suggestions, but I ask you to entertain the idea that you will be more efficient if you aim for a higher cadence, 80-90. I know 50 may feel "natural" to you if that is they way you have been doing it all along, but if you try a faster cadence I suspect you will eventually like it and get much more power.
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You might consider getting a compact cyclocross crank set in 46/36 (FSA) with a 12-25 cassette. This gives you a better shot at the hills.
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with my genetics i need to spin slow <-- slowpo gonzalez ...

"if i spin faster i won't be able to put down more power - in fact i will put down less "<-- well that's obvious, but i believe you don't understand what everybody is telling you and what u need to work IS CADENCE, NOT POWER. And let me tell you this, the reason because u suck going uphill is because you dont have cadence. It is worthless to have a lot of power w/o having cadence... maybe u can understand this... doesnt matter if you have an engine capable of generate 2789 Hp if you don't have a transmission able to handle that power and send it to the wheels. Hope you can get it this way because everybody is telling you whats wrong. If you don't want to listen go ahead buy a chainwheel in 60 and a 11T cassette. Because even my little kid with his tricycle will pass you going uphill due to the fact that you will become even slower afterwards

The trick is not power, the trick is cadence. Power is a thing that you work little by little, but power w/o cadence is useless, like an engine w/o a transmission. In a matter of fact im darn fat and ugly right now and i still have my cadence. I dont ride fast at all but i still smile a lot when a fatso goes with 53x11 and i pass him with my big belly looking like a darn bear using 42x16 just like nothing. Even they look at me like... WTF...!!! People do not know im behind them because i dont change gears also.

U can do over 35 km/h using 39x16, even if the road is hilly u can do the whole road with only 1 gear, people do not get it... people do not understand... people refuse to see and still think that the trick is as heavy the gear you can move the better, as heavy it is the more power you put, duh!. I'm almost sure the OP times are getting slower and thats why he wants to change gears also. And if he can't figure it out why, there is nothing we could tell him, he wont read or listen.

U dont want smaller legs? I can show you mines, 40 years old, i don't do more than 500 miles per year... but still have some of my cycling legs. Well i was a tracker and that makes a difference but i believe the OP needs to inject steroids or go and do weight machines if he is looking for muscles at Schwarzenegger style. I even believe this is a 13 years old fat kid that is trying to be popular somehow. If you look at it popular kids never do cycling, cycling is the sports of rich people, practiced by poor and unpopular people.

Darn
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Originally Posted by datlas
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I am not sure if the OP is receptive to suggestions, but I ask you to entertain the idea that you will be more efficient if you aim for a higher cadence, 80-90. I know 50 may feel "natural" to you if that is they way you have been doing it all along, but if you try a faster cadence I suspect you will eventually like it and get much more power.
Only long enough to go in one ear and out the other.

He probably drives a standard transmission car in 5th gear around town to get more power.
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Originally Posted by ultraman6970
Are this you anatomical measurements?
yeah bro, in my pants *high five*
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Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT
if Ullrich spins at 80 and Lance at 100 does that mean one of them is doing it wrong ? or does that mean that they have different genetics ?
Ullrich and Armstrong differ from you in the fact that they actually know what the hell they are talking about, and know what they are doing.

with my genetics i need to spin slow. i am trying to work on getting the cadence up a bit but it naturally tends towards 50 or so. i will keep working on that but i have to ultimately listen to my body, not some numbers taken from other people.
bullcrap. i could pass you on my 42 chainring with my cassette not even maxed out quite easily, and I have a 50 if i want to go over 30 mph. a cadence of 50 with a 53/11 gearing is not applying more power, its going slow and trashing your knees for no good reason because you are being incredibly dense with your insistence that you can treat cycling the exact same way as weightlifting. Pedaling along at 50 cadence on a 53/11 is like trying to do your max 1 rep weight over and over. You will just exhaust yourself trying to do it. You lower the weight, you can do more work over time. Similarly if you raise the cadence you will be able to do more work over time, which equates to better fitness, better efficiency, and a faster speed. You will likely have to lower the chainring size to increase your cadence, but as you gain strength, you can eventually do a higher cadence with a higher gearing.

But I suspect you really don't care about that, you just want to brag about how supposedly "powerful" you are. Hint: Here we ain't impressed. Go over to a bodybuilder forum and impress some pimply teenagers if that's your goal.

if i spin faster i won't be able to put down more power - in fact i will put down less - the only thing that i might achieve this way is my legs might get smaller so i might get lighter and this way faster. however i don't want smaller legs.
You don't even have a power meter to know, you just think that pushing harder is somehow "better", despite what people better educated than you in the sport of cycling have been trying to drum into your thick head. This ain't the gym, and powerlifting is completely different discipline than cycling. You just don't get it.
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Originally Posted by tspek
But trolls are supposed to be funny...
Not necessarily. The main goal for trolls is to either post something very controversial or very outrageous. A successful troll is successful if he gets people to argue with each other, or argue with him.
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Just in case i look just like the guy in your avatar picture
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Originally Posted by datlas
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I am not sure if the OP is receptive to suggestions, but I ask you to entertain the idea that you will be more efficient if you aim for a higher cadence, 80-90. I know 50 may feel "natural" to you if that is they way you have been doing it all along, but if you try a faster cadence I suspect you will eventually like it and get much more power.
i am trying. what i am noticing so far is when i shift and pedal faster my overall speed remains about the same but my breathing rate goes up by about 50%. i feel like i am burning much more calories but the amount of them reaching the crank is the same.
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Originally Posted by deep_sky
Pedaling along at 50 cadence on a 53/11 is like trying to do your max 1 rep weight over and over.
completely wrong. you're assuming that the ultimate limit is the tension quads can produce. in my case what's limited is my cardio strength. and my heart beats at a rate that is independent of the derailleur setting.

also the ability of mitochondria to produce ATP isn't related to cadence in any way. if your muscle is limited chemically ( as mine is ) rather than mechanically ( as yours apparently is ) then the slower you pedal the more efficient you are because you're not wasting ATP for unnecessary contraction.
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