dersan

yes you read it right whenever i rode my allez elite my left knee hurt like hell.But whenever i changed to my friends scott trek or corratec bikes even thoug they dont fit me i dont feel anything.Why is my allez hurting me i changed its seddle hight at first it stops hurting than started again.İs the angle of this bike not forme

rollin

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dersan

Grumpy McTrumpy

wut

Chris_F

Seat height?

MichaelW

Check the crank size on your allez vs your friends bikes.
Check that the cranks or pedals are rotating true and are not bent or badly assembles.
Check your overall riding position (saddle height and fore-aft, then bar height, reach). Peter white cycles has some useful info on bike fit.

I ignore all angles when setting up a bike and use [x,y] measurements from the bottom bracket.

patentcad

I've heard this before.

patentcad

This never would have happened on a Scott or a Cervelo by the way.

znomit

Yeah mine does that too, though its my right knee... but we ride on the other side down here so it makes sense.

Urthwhyte

What is this I don't even...

dersan

i just checked my neigbours scott speed s20 he has 172.5 crank lenght like mine.and same clipliss pedals.I have 3 bikes 2 of them specialized 1 scott city bike.My friend test ride my bike for a week and he never had any issue like mine.and i dont have any issiu on his bike either.
and also my stumpjumper makes my left knee hurt the same way.Should i go to doctor?but i dont feel pain in other bikes.There is nobody around whos got specialzed i want to test another bike

Chris_F

If you guys confined your riding to the equator you'd probably be just fine.

Grumpy McTrumpy

Esl?

Urthwhyte

No, it's definitely his native language, I go to an international school and don't know any non-native speakers that can butcher English like that

Grumpy McTrumpy

impressive.

dersan

Man dont be cruel i am from turkey and learned english bye my self and tv.So sorry for my bad english but still my knee hurts

roshea

I'm guessing it's to do with your saddle position, NOT the brand of bike!. Maybe you're too far forward.

Check the distance of your saddle behind the bottom bracket - measure vertically from the bottom bracket and then back ("setback").

Positioning chart here.

roadiejorge 

My elbow hurts on days when I don't ride but when I do the pain is gone...go figure


Seriously though I would follow some of the recommendations listed above because it's how your bike is set up that's causing the problem and not the frame. Do you use clipless pedals on your bike and use them on your friend's bike to compare properly? If not then it might have something to do with how your cleats are set up in addition to the possible issues other posters have mentioned.

tuxbailey

It is not about the bike.

MegaTom

Yes... you should go see a psychologist. It's all in your head.

ultraman6970

Agree, all must be measure from the BB.

ultraman6970

This is interesting... I changed the insoles in my shoes to get reid off of a pain and yesterday i noticed the same problem that he has. Same leg also Now changing the cleats a little bit and see what happens, or i'll go with a new pair of shoes, looks like it is the time to do it (bling bling speaking)

Hey Turkish guy, have you try moving the cleat in the left shoe?

Hunt-man

You still haven't said if the saddle height is the same. Frame size? If saddle height is the same look at forward / back saddle position. Drop a plumb from your knee and see where it is on both bikes. I'll guess that you are more forward on your friends bike. That is when I get knee pain.

For the English, there is a spell checker in Mozilla Firefox. If you just put two spaces between the sentences and capitalize the first words that would help a lot. Spell check is your best friend, and proof reading before you post.

Nachoman

I would start by making small adjustments in your set up to try and make it more like your friend's bike.

dersan

ok guys thank you for your helps.About saddle height and saddle position are all fit for me.MY friend is a pro rider he confirms this.And i tried my clipless shoes on friends bike no pain.MY other question is i always rode traditional road bikes this bike is my first non traditional frame with a little bow on top tube can be anything with it?and bye the way frame size is medium my friends bike also is medium frame i am 1.76cm tall.Do frame sizes differ from manufacturer to manufacturer i mean if a bike from trek is medium is it same size in speciliazed?
Maybe i need larger frame on specialized idont know?i am just out of solutions here the frame looks awesome i dont want to sell it.