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$700 for SRAM Red over Ultegra?

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Old 07-27-10, 10:36 AM
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is there a wheel difference between the SRAM and Shimano bikes? That may make a difference as well in my choice (if this were at all up to me!)
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Originally Posted by sbxx1985
What size S2 did you end up getting?
48. I talked the LBS into ordering the bike with no deposit. I sat on a fit cycle this morning and they're confident I'll fit the 48. But, worst case scenario, if I don't, I'm under no obligation.

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is there a wheel difference between the SRAM and Shimano bikes? That may make a difference as well in my choice (if this were at all up to me!)
Nope.
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Originally Posted by ijen0311
48. I talked the LBS into ordering the bike with no deposit. I sat on a fit cycle this morning and they're confident I'll fit the 48. But, worst case scenario, if I don't, I'm under no obligation.



Nope.
Do you know whether or not 48 comes with regular sized wheels (700c)? And if so, did you have any toe overlap?
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Originally Posted by kimconyc
Do you know whether or not 48 comes with regular sized wheels (700c)? And if so, did you have any toe overlap?
Toe overlap happens slightly on my current bike, but it's never been a problem for me, I'm assuming because of the way I turn?

The 48 does have 700c wheels. I'll give it a good go on the test ride to check out the toe overlap problem.
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Even if there is toe overlap, it's never a problem unless you're going <5 mph and swerving around. I've always had it on my road bikes and had an issue with it one time.
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interesting, i thought the 48 cervelos came with 650 wheels. congratulations on your purchase!
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Originally Posted by AngryScientist
interesting, i thought the 48 cervelos came with 650 wheels. congratulations on your purchase!
It does on the RS model (I think that's the one).
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Originally Posted by AngryScientist
interesting, i thought the 48 cervelos came with 650 wheels. congratulations on your purchase!
Yeah, that's why I was asking. I have several female friends who ride small(er) sized bikes and wondered if there would be problems putting 700c on a 48 Cervelo.

FWIW, a guy I ride with has a 2009 S2 54 and he has major toe overlap but loves the aggressive ride.
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Originally Posted by AngryScientist
ask andy schleck what he would do.

Ask Contador what he would do.

Or Cancellara
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You'll love the S2, it's a great bike. It's a also a great bike to be creative, my better half loves it.
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Originally Posted by Emptei
You'll love the S2, it's a great bike. It's a also a great bike to be creative, my better half loves it.
Holy tight water bottle cages.
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Originally Posted by sbxx1985
Holy tight water bottle cages.
Yeah, we bought 16oz Tacx bottles. Cages are also flexy so it's easy to get out.
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Originally Posted by Emptei
Yeah, we bought 16oz Tacx bottles. Cages are also flexy so it's easy to get out.
You can get side-loading cages (Specialized Zee etc) you know, might be easier.
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Originally Posted by Emptei
You'll love the S2, it's a great bike. It's a also a great bike to be creative, my better half loves it.
thats so anti-euro
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Originally Posted by paste_me
thats so anti-euro
Cervelo is made in Canada/China/US, there's nothing Euro about it.
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Originally Posted by Emptei
You'll love the S2, it's a great bike. It's a also a great bike to be creative, my better half loves it.
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Love it! Thanks for the pic. I like the look of the lime green.
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Originally Posted by ijen0311
About to order my S2, finally. SRAM Red is on sale for $4700, Ultegra is at $4000. I don't know much about SRAM.

What would BF do? (I'm not dying to spend another $700, but I will if it's going to be worth it)
Sounds a bit high for SRAM Red. Can you get it separately? A lot of online stores have it so cheap, it's better than getting it on the bike sometimes.
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Jen - you implied in your other thread that you had some inside info on the 2011 colors. You anticipated ugliness.

What did you hear?
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Jen - you implied in your other thread that you had some inside info on the 2011 colors. You anticipated ugliness.

What did you hear?
I'll PM you.
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Originally Posted by Emptei
You'll love the S2, it's a great bike. It's a also a great bike to be creative, my better half loves it.
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My 2009 Synapse Carbon 3 has Ultegra SL and my 2010 SuperSix has Red. Go Red. It blows doors on Ultegra. GL
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Originally Posted by FlashBazbo
I've ridden both. I prefer Ultegra 6700 over Red. I would pay more for Ultegra 6700 because the shifting is quieter, easier, more refined.

At a $700 price difference, with Red higher, this isn't even a close call.

But what would the BF do? The BF guzzles SRAM KoolAid. The BF would take Red over anything at any price. And then, the BF would spend more money to "downgrade" to a SRAM Force front derailleur, because it functions better than Red. (Go figure.)
Well,
I am a Sram convert after riding Shimano for many many years (still do). Red (Force/Rival) have pushed the envelope a hell of a lot more than Shimano has done in recent years. I just got a Focus with Ultegra 6700 and like all other Shimano groups I have and had in past, it is excellent. However, factor in cost and weight, and Sram is killing it. It is not hype, it really is good stuff. If I were building a frame up from scratch, I'd do Rival with a Force crank. Light light light and affordable mix there.
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Originally Posted by Emptei
You'll love the S2, it's a great bike. It's a also a great bike to be creative, my better half loves it.
is she bothered by the toe overlap? usually its a total non issue, but the small cervelos can have quite a bit.
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Originally Posted by kimconyc
BF would get a Cannondale Supersix Hi-Mod 1..

You are correct sir........... Cannondale.
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Old 07-27-10, 05:02 PM
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You are correct sir........... Cannondale.
The S2 is already on order
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