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twentysomething 12-21-11 04:36 PM

I'm 6'2" with a 33' inseam. I wonder if I could ride a 56? I currently have a 58 Synapse and 58 Madone BUT....

REI (I know, I know) has taken a CAAD 10 frame and built it up with 105 components and Easton wheels and its $1,100. Seems too good to be true but it was a replacement frame someone didn't want. Just don't know if I can do a 56.

2ndGen 12-21-11 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by on the path (Post 13626216)
It's hard to believe because my CAAD 10 5 (58cm) w/105 pedals, a bottle cage, and a sending unit and mount for a cheap computer (computer not in the mount) weighs 19.57 lbs. I had my LBS weigh it while I watched.

Well, you have to compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges. Besides frames, there are groupsets to consider (full 105 is about a pound heavier than Dura Ace. You have mixed 105 which is going to be even heavier than full 105). Wheelsets, tires, saddle, bars and even skewers make big differences.

My CAAD9 fully loaded (cages, computer, micro pump,
empty bottles, loaded Lezyne Micro Caddy
) is 18.5lbs.

105 seems to be 2,481g.
Dura-Ace 7900 is 2087g.
That alone is worth 394g or .86 lbs.

[You'll find a lot of sub-16lbs CAAD9's with some as low as 13lbs @ WW.]

2ndGen 12-21-11 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twentysomething (Post 13626366)
I'm 6'2" with a 33' inseam. I wonder if I could ride a 56? I currently have a 58 Synapse and 58 Madone BUT....

REI (I know, I know) has taken a CAAD 10 frame and built it up with 105 components and Easton wheels and its $1,100. Seems too good to be true but it was a replacement frame someone didn't want. Just don't know if I can do a 56.

I'm 5'9" with a 31.5" inseam. I ride a 56. I like being in a little aggressive position. 54 was too tight for me. 58 too big. 56 was jusssst right.

I think 56 is the lowest you can go and you can always experiment with stem lengths to accommodate your particular dimensions. Plus, not all 58's are the same. It really is a matter of you getting fitted at an LBS (I don't know if REI has trained sales personnel for that).

I <3 Robots 12-21-11 06:08 PM

105 according to the Total Cycling chart is 2624. Rival is 2244, then minus the weight of the Rival crank from the Force. The Rival CAAD has a pretty decent drop in weight over the 105 model.

http://www.totalcycling.com/index.ph...t-weights.html

DGlenday 12-21-11 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2ndGen (Post 13626574)
...I don't know if REI has trained sales personnel for that.

REI is the only place I'll go for hiking and mountain climbing equipment. I've tried the rest, and REI blows them away - particularly in terms of the employee's hands-on knowledge of the products, their customer service, and their returns policy.

But I've tried 3 separate REIs for cycling equipment and advice - and they can't hold a candle to a decent LBS.

Yes, I know that there are big differences between individual stores - but my point is that it would be wise to research purchases extensively before deciding to shop for bikes at REI.

2ndGen 12-21-11 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I <3 Robots (Post 13626724)
105 according to the Total Cycling chart is 2624. Rival is 2244, then minus the weight of the Rival crank from the Force. The Rival CAAD has a pretty decent drop in weight over the 105 model.

totalcycling.

Great source.

:thumb:


Quote:

Originally Posted by DGlenday (Post 13626725)
REI is the only place I'll go for hiking and mountain climbing equipment. I've tried the rest, and REI blows them away - particularly in terms of the employee's hands-on knowledge of the products, their customer service, and their returns policy.

But I've tried 3 separate REIs for cycling equipment and advice - and they can't hold a candle to a decent LBS.

Yes, I know that there are big differences between individual stores - but my point is that it would be wise to research purchases extensively before deciding to shop for bikes at REI.

I know. I was trying to be "gentle" about it my 'department store vs LBS comparison'. ;)
(And I totally agree with you.)

Beaker 12-21-11 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twentysomething (Post 13626366)
I'm 6'2" with a 33' inseam. I wonder if I could ride a 56? I currently have a 58 Synapse and 58 Madone BUT....

REI (I know, I know) has taken a CAAD 10 frame and built it up with 105 components and Easton wheels and its $1,100. Seems too good to be true but it was a replacement frame someone didn't want. Just don't know if I can do a 56.

Agree with others about REI, but that price is pretty good. In your shoes I'd consider test riding to get a sense of the fit. If that was OK, buy it in the knowledge that they'll definitely let you return it if you're not satisfied. Alternatively, I'm sure you could sell it for $1,100 too.

on the path 12-21-11 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2ndGen (Post 13626548)
Well, you have to compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges. Besides frames, there are groupsets to consider (full 105 is about a pound heavier than Dura Ace. You have mixed 105 which is going to be even heavier than full 105). Wheelsets, tires, saddle, bars and even skewers make big differences.

My CAAD9 fully loaded (cages, computer, micro pump,
empty bottles, loaded Lezyne Micro Caddy
) is 18.5lbs.

105 seems to be 2,481g.
Dura-Ace 7900 is 2087g.
That alone is worth 394g or .86 lbs.

[You'll find a lot of sub-16lbs CAAD9's with some as low as 13lbs @ WW.]

Uh, you weren't comparing apples to apples either. And if you check the chronology of the posts you'll understand that I was commenting on bike you linked to, not on your personal bike.

The photo in said link shows a bike with no pedals (kinda hard to ride without them). If the stated weight, 17.08 lbs. is without pedals then it's a bit easier to believe. But it still doesn't seem right. I'll stay with my original statement that the weight quoted in that link is probably for a very small frame.

I know that people get off on talking about how light their bikes can be. I was talking about what my bike weighs when I get on it to ride. Yes, the computer weighs a couple of grams. I keep some tools & gear on my person, and for the majority of my riding I don't even take a water bottle.

2ndGen 12-21-11 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by on the path (Post 13627279)
I'll stay with my original statement that the weight quoted in that link is probably for a very small frame.

If you would've read the link, you'd see that it was for a 54cm.
Is that your definition of "very small"?

on the path 12-21-11 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2ndGen (Post 13627318)
If you would've read the link, you'd see that it was for a 54cm.
Is that your definition of "very small"?

The body of the article doesn't really address the weight issue. I suppose the test bike had pedals. I still find the stated weight to be problematic.

You probably know that Cannondale does not claim total bicycle weights in their advertising and they are very clear as to why they don't. Even though the article is about a Cannondale bike, the lack of any clarity as far as how the stated weight of the bike was arrived at, is precisely why Cannondale doesn't make claims about the weight of their bikes. And this is one of the things that I appreciate about Cannondale.

2ndGen 12-21-11 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by on the path (Post 13627418)
The body of the article doesn't really address the weight issue. I suppose the test bike had pedals. I still find the stated weight to be problematic.

You probably know that Cannondale does not claim total bicycle weights in their advertising and they are very clear as to why they don't. Even though the article is about a Cannondale bike, the lack of any clarity as far as how the stated weight of the bike was arrived at, is precisely why Cannondale doesn't make claims about the weight of their bikes. And this is one of the things that I appreciate about Cannondale.

So would that be a yes or a no?

:)

ussprinceton 12-21-11 11:02 PM

..it was a high of 67 F here in Durham, NC area today...but, it was raining...I didn't feel like taking a chance in ruining my wheels...

2ndGen 12-21-11 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ussprinceton (Post 13627560)
..it was a high of 67 F here in Durham, NC area today...but, it was raining...

Same deal here. It got up to 65 in WV, but rainy.
Still, it's been surprisingly mild for this time of year.
I was itching to get a CX bike, but will be MTBing it this winter.

Spookeay Bird 12-22-11 12:16 AM

Wings...All Bikes need big blue wings.... and that's all I got to say about that now.

Triaxtremec 12-22-11 12:31 AM

Hey guys, I recently got myself a great craigslist find, a 2011 CAAD10 5 105! I'm super excited for winter to be over so I can start putting some miles on it. I have a set of easton wheels to replace the stock wheels. Looking to replace the stem, bars, and seatpost to lighten the bike up and personalize it. Any suggestions?

hendrick81 12-22-11 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Spookeay Bird (Post 13586469)
YEA! GO 9s! U.S.A, U.S.A, U.S.A, U.S.A, U.S.A, U.S.A!
And BTW,,,, GO NAVY~!

It looks like you pee'd your pant's spookey turd???

http://spookeaymarine.info/photos/funney9.jpg


Mod Edit: Posting insults is bad. Just say'n.

2ndGen 12-22-11 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Triaxtremec (Post 13627758)
Hey guys, I recently got myself a great craigslist find, a 2011 CAAD10 5 105! I'm super excited for winter to be over so I can start putting some miles on it. I have a set of easton wheels to replace the stock wheels. Looking to replace the stem, bars, and seatpost to lighten the bike up and personalize it. Any suggestions?

You can't tell us you got a score without telling us how much you paid for it! :lol:

And, congrats! :thumb: Welcome to The Fraternity!
Of course, that membership is conditional (pics please!).

Stem/Bars/Post, I went full carbon.
If your goal is weight savings first,
aluminum is for you (and it's cheaper).
My goal was making my CAAD9 more comfortable.

revchuck 12-22-11 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twentysomething (Post 13626366)
I'm 6'2" with a 33' inseam. I wonder if I could ride a 56? I currently have a 58 Synapse and 58 Madone BUT....

REI (I know, I know) has taken a CAAD 10 frame and built it up with 105 components and Easton wheels and its $1,100. Seems too good to be true but it was a replacement frame someone didn't want. Just don't know if I can do a 56.

First, I'm guessing that you meant a 33" inseam. ;)

I'm 6'2" and have about the same inseam. I had a 58cm CAAD9 and had to move up in size. Granted, for me it was more due to head tube length since I ride with only 6cm of bar drop, but both of your present bikes have taller head tubes than the 58cm CAAD9; the 56cm version would be shorter still. The CAAD frame is sweet, but only if it fits.

Vaportrail56 12-22-11 07:15 AM

Edit, the mod fixed it

Triaxtremec 12-22-11 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2ndGen (Post 13627803)
You can't tell us you got a score without telling us how much you paid for it! :lol:

And, congrats! :thumb: Welcome to The Fraternity!
Of course, that membership is conditional (pics please!).

Stem/Bars/Post, I went full carbon.
If your goal is weight savings first,
aluminum is for you (and it's cheaper).
My goal was making my CAAD9 more comfortable.

Thanks, I got the bike for $450! Pics to come, its at the shop getting my wheels swapped out and new bar tape put on.

aquateen 12-22-11 02:43 PM

officially drinking the kool-aid! rode the caad10 105, red, and rival today and will be getting the 5 in january


:)

Foblander 12-22-11 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triaxtremec (Post 13628430)
Thanks, I got the bike for $450! Pics to come, its at the shop getting my wheels swapped out and new bar tape put on.

wow that is a deal!

Propofol 12-22-11 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triaxtremec (Post 13628430)
Thanks, I got the bike for $450! Pics to come, its at the shop getting my wheels swapped out and new bar tape put on.

$450? Incredible deal if it's in good condition. What size? If you say 58 I'll be jealous.

on the path 12-22-11 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aquateen (Post 13629855)
officially drinking the kool-aid! rode the caad10 105, red, and rival today and will be getting the 5 in january


:)

Drink up. It's yummy :D

on the path 12-22-11 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triaxtremec (Post 13628430)
Thanks, I got the bike for $450!

Ride it like you stole it. Actually, it seems like somebody did..:twitchy:


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