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Old 10-16-10, 10:28 PM
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I thought that we agreed - after Diablo, no more self-loathing from you.
I'm just on a self loathing hiatus. It will return, oh yes.
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That's some serious cool hydroform action going on.
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How come C'dale isn't using the wishbone-style stays anymore? Looks like the Caad10 has straight stays...
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Originally Posted by Velo_Tut
How come C'dale isn't using the wishbone-style stays anymore? Looks like the Caad10 has straight stays...

https://www.pelotonmagazine.com/Speci...ch_prerolldone

this should answer any and all caad10 questions

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that was worth the view. somehow i hadnt seen it yet. later.
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Originally Posted by cjcastan
https://www.pelotonmagazine.com/Speci...ch_prerolldone

this should answer any and all caad10 questions
Thanks for that vid CJ.

Made me respect the CAAD10, but made me LOVE my CAAD9 even more.
If I were going to upgrade from my C9, I'd go up to a high quality carbon frameset.
Kind of reminds me of the upgrade from 105 to Ultegra thread.
Why bother from going to a great frame to a slightly better frame.
I might as well go from a great frame to a really great frame.

I think the CAAD10 is going to have just as strong a following as the C9 has developed.

Cannondale does it again! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meLpuF9UMvk
(No "Handmade In Taiwan" stickers on the seat stays? )
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So long as you realize that high end CF is even more likely to have a "Made in Taiwan" sticker
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So long as you realize that high end CF is even more likely to have a "Made in Taiwan" sticker
Really?

Parlee?
Trek?
Pinarello?
Colnago?
Time?

Their "high end" carbon frames are made in Taiwan?
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Yup. Anyway, back to the CAADs.
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Yup...
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There's been a whole bunch of threads on this over the years, I believe most Pinarello's are now Asian built frames, as are most Madones now. I'll give you calfee, parlee, crampon...but my point is a lot of really good high end frames are from Asia. I have no problem with this.
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Originally Posted by Beaker
There's been a whole bunch of threads on this over the years, I believe most Pinarello's are now Asian built frames, as are most Madones now. I'll give you calfee, parlee, crampon...but my point is a lot of really good high end frames are from Asia. I have no problem with this.
I thought the Trek 5 and 6 series bikes were still made in usa. The new 4 series bikes are made in asia.
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Originally Posted by Beaker
There's been a whole bunch of threads on this over the years, I believe most Pinarello's are now Asian built frames, as are most Madones now. I'll give you calfee, parlee, crampon...but my point is a lot of really good high end frames are from Asia. I have no problem with this.
There's no point in using "most" because the only exceptions to your point are the high end. madones, ulteams, etc.

that little correction being made though, I'm with you. Giant TCR advanced: Mainland China, Pinarello Dogma: Taiwan, Orbeas, S-Works, all but a handful of companies' top end frames are made in asia and that 25 year old thai woman lays carbon tube joints just as well as Jean Luc Cyfac.
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CityCycle here in Jax,Fl had CAAD9 frames for $500 while they last.......
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Originally Posted by Beaker
There's been a whole bunch of threads on this over the years, I believe most Pinarello's are now Asian built frames, as are most Madones now. I'll give you calfee, parlee, crampon...but my point is a lot of really good high end frames are from Asia. I have no problem with this.
Trek and Pinarello's best frames are made in America and Italy.
That's what I'd consider their "high end" frames.

I have no doubt that Asia makes good high end frames.
But besides the others mentioned, Trek, Colango, Time and
Pinarello's high end frames (my def: best) are NOT made in Asia.

Nnnnow, back to CAADs...

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CityCycle here in Jax,Fl had CAAD9 frames for $500 while they last.......
Good to know Sean.



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Good to know Sean.



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Yep, they were advertising them on tv.
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Just picked this puppy up last night with a test toupe, if I like it I'll go black for the permanent saddle. 16.8lbs by the tried and trusted bathroom scales weighing method.



Can't wait to get a shake down ride in. Replaced stock wheels and saddle, tires don't excite me much, but I have a set of PR3's that are itching to go on there.
The Pedaler ^_^ Definitely one of the most camouflaged bike shops I have ever seen. When I first went in there I would have never guessed they had so many nice bikes in there.
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Originally Posted by fatallightning
cult indeed.
*pic removed*
Awesome.. both good looking bikes.

Here's my CAAD9-4 the day I bought it. Originally never thought of going Cannondale, was looking at higher priced bikes actually.. Pinarello, BMC..

Fell in love with the black caad9-4, problem was I couldn't find it in my size so rather reluctantly I ended up coming home with red. It's grown on me.. plus red is faster right?

This is my first road bike, been riding fixed for a year or so, but after hitting some high speeds decided I want to climb and descend more. I hit 45.2 mph the other day and it was awesome!

Upgrades so far is just a Dura Ace cassette.

Planned:
Wheelset (still undecided)
Carbon bars
Maybe red hoods
Black skewers (everything on this bike is red/black except silver skewers???)



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also take off the dork disc
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also take off the dork disc
haha, been done. that pic is like a month old.
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Originally Posted by 2ndGen
Pinarello's high end frames (my def: best) are NOT made in Asia.
hate to perpetuate, but this is wrong. dogma/prince/etc. are made in asia and sent to Treviso for paint/finish
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Originally Posted by 2ndGen
Trek and Pinarello's best frames are made in America and Italy.
That's what I'd consider their "high end" frames.

I have no doubt that Asia makes good high end frames.
But besides the others mentioned, Trek, Colango, Time and
Pinarello's high end frames (my def: best) are NOT made in Asia.
"Made in" doesn't necessarily mean the entire bike was constructed in that country. If the majority of the value of the bike was added in a particular nation, the bike is claimed to be made in said nation i.e. the frame was constructed in Taiwan but painted, and assembled in France, and if the majority of the bike's worth was added in France, the bike is said to be made in France. The majority of frames are constructed in Asia nowadays. There are articles all over the place regarding this.
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alright guys... back to CAADs, enough nonsense about COO.
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