2ndGen

There is no bitterness towards the CAAD10.
What there "is" is this defensiveness posture mostly by non-CAAD owners that
is more prevalent. And this is a fanboy thread. Don't bring any flaming here.

Again, any "reasonable" person would note that the CAAD10 is not a proven entity yet.
That has nothing to do with subjective judgement. It is just an objective fact.
It still has years to go. I'm hoping that the torch was handed down to a worthy successor.
From what I've seen, it seems that it has been. But demeaning the CAAD9 isn't the way
to prop up the CAAD10. No CAAD9 owner dislikes or envies a CAAD10. Even those
who've actually gone from CAAD9's to CAAD10's note that while it is better, it is
marginally better. I haven't read one review by actual owners that the 10 in any way
blows the 9 out of the water. CAAD10 owners respect CAAD9's...they know where
their legacy comes from. I personally reserve judgement (with hope).

You ruin the experience for CAAD owners.
Disagreements are cool, but personal insults are not.

Read the OP...it's about the bike, not the owners here.

Go flame me on on another thread where I will gladly deal with you,
but keep this thread free of that immaturity.

Do you even own a CAAD?
Matter of fact, don't bother answering.
Something tells me it wouldn't make a difference.

2ndGen

No, I repeated what Cannondale themselves said.

https://www.cannondale.com/supersixevo#5

It doesn't say this about the SuperSix.
So, your argument is with Cannondale.

2ndGen

@ Bori Newb!

2ndGen

Very nice XX. Welcome aboard.

2ndGen

https://reviews.roadbikereview.com/fi...nondale-caad10

Have you ridden them?

2ndGen

You better do your bike more justice with a better picture!

2ndGen

Hey Tara.

https://www.cannondale.com/supersixevo#5

2ndGen

I know that my CAAD9 is hawt, But Damn that 8 is beautiful! Well done.

JeffS

Yes, and I refuse to feel bad for wanting to support local manufacturing. And yes, your implication that it has anything to do with race makes me think a lot less of you.

2ndGen

Agreed. I didn't even want to touch that issue.
Especially since I am considered a minority in this country.
There was no call to suggest that in a discussion about manufacturing.

2ndGen

All in all, I have full confidence that Cannondale will produce a great product with the CAAD10. I never said anything different or to the contrary. I just don't understand the unreasonable rush to judgement. A CAAD is a CAAD is a CAAD is a CAAD no matter where it's made; As long as it's still controlled by the Cannondale's Engineers and product designers.

Those who pit CAAD9's against CAAD10's need to relax and just let time the tale (not forecast).

That being said, I wish Cannondale had left production in the U.S.. Dorel (a Canadian company that owns Cannondale now) just didn't have the same interest to preserve the employment of American workers.

There was no need to go overseas other than to save money in production and even though they did save a lot of money with the CAAD10, they still raised their prices. There was a time when you could get a top of the line CAAD for $800. (just two years ago). Now, good luck trying to get that frameset for under $1,200. For a beginner, that $400. makes the difference between just getting a bike and getting a bike and the accessories to go with it (shoes, gear, pedals, etc...).

It's undeniable that Asia makes good bikes. I never criticized a "people" for their manufacturing. What I saw was a concern among the first buyers of CAAD10's for heavier riders (i.e. 200lbs +) was the design they used to develop the new frames (thinner aluminum forming at junctions of the frame to save weight).

"If" CAAD10's prove themselves to be as good as CAAD9's for everybody (not just 150lb riders), then Cannondale will have truly pulled off an engineering accomplishment. More power to them.

It'd be nice to see an Aluminum frame receive the same time, effort, research and attention that carbon gets. But from what I've read, carbon is farrrr cheaper to produce with unskilled labor than metal is.

(Pardon the rant.)

I <3 Robots

I have. Along with a 9, Super Six HM, Six13, and now the System.

I <3 Robots

but isn't that the implication in the first place? Assuming that a pair of Asian hands can't do as well as a pair of American hands?

Quality comes from whoever does the quality control. So if the CAAD10 take a dip in quality...its not on the hands of the workers...its on Cannondale. I really wish more people would understand that.

Being made in a certain part of the world today is more for image and ego than anything else.

DGlenday

In my case (and I am not speaking for anyone else here) it's very simple: All other things being equal, I'd rather have the $$ I spend on a bike go toward the take-home wages of an American family - and keep the cash in circulation in the US economy.

Regarding the quality - I can't speak for the CAAD10, as I've never ridden one. I think it's a safe assumption (and yes, it's just an assumption) that the design is an advance on the CAAD9. But in terms of pure appearance, the welds on the CAAD10 look bloody awful compared to the 9.

2ndGen

Nobody here has ever disputed that.

False. No one would say that most manufacturing for bicycles was moved to Asia for "image & ego".

OMGoodness. Again with the race thing? The implication is only in "your" mind.


Again, you're soiling this thread. Please, go away.

I <3 Robots

2ndGen

Amen brother.

I work with metal as a contractor (28 years).
I know good quality work when I see it.
CAAD9's were made well. Period.

CAAD10 designers used CAAD9s as their base and went on from there improving "upon" what the benchmark that the CAAD9 had already established (Here comes the "that's your opinion! Where's the proof!" post which I'll in turn refer them BACK to the Cannondale site that they seem to not read anyway).

2ndGen

xxguitarist

Thanks, although I've had that bike for well over a year.
I'm just hanging around here because I may be moving somewhere a bit hillier & will be looking for some of those extra gear things.

2ndGen

I am the definition of a fanboi for a all things CAAD.
It just reminds me of the bikes I saw growing up, but modernized.
Classic lines, but with a unique thought put into it's design.
Just about any CAAD looks nice to me.

DPV

Hey! I feel like I've been cheated! Where's the freakin' bike porn???

Counting down the hours to the end of my work day- heading to my LBS straight after to pick up my new CAAD8.5! My first road bike, and first new bike! Pictures to follow...

2ndGen

Duh?



And wth is a 8.5 CAAD (if not mockery? )?

DPV

oops- 1st post and already a newb mistake! I meant a Caad8 with 105... just like the picture! Of course, it'll be a little while before I put killer wheels on mine like rydox....

I'll be planning a black/red theme- red tape, red wheels and black frame... Everyone knows red makes you go 20-23% faster!

2ndGen

No worries!

Welcome aboard and take your time with the pics
as long as you have them on here by yesterday!



(BTW...there are some very hot CAAD8's here. Check them out for ideas. )

skinnyterror

I don't care what any of you say, I LOVE my caad 10. SO much fun to ride!