BMW lies
10-01-04, 04:31 PM
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BMW lies
I was in a doctor's waiting room waiting for a friend to finish his appointment and picked up the only magazine that was remotely recent. It was called "BMW Driver" or something like that, published by BMW themselves. One article was about their efforts to lighten the chassis of their cars and the new technologies they had to develop to do such. One thing they mentioned was using a material that at that point, was only being used by aerospace and race car companies: carbon fiber.
What?
Apparently bikes are now classified as race cars. Or space ships. One of the two.
What?
Apparently bikes are now classified as race cars. Or space ships. One of the two.
10-01-04, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Xtrmyorick
I was in a doctor's waiting room waiting for a friend to finish his appointment and picked up the only magazine that was remotely recent. It was called "BMW Driver" or something like that, published by BMW themselves. One article was about their efforts to lighten the chassis of their cars and the new technologies they had to develop to do such. One thing they mentioned was using a material that at that point, was only being used by aerospace and race car companies: carbon fiber.
What?
Apparently bikes are now classified as race cars. Or space ships. One of the two.
What?
Apparently bikes are now classified as race cars. Or space ships. One of the two.
10-01-04, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by halfspeed
What gear ratio would it take to launch a Trek 5200 free of the Earth's gravity well? Where's 53-11 when you need him.
10-01-04, 05:21 PM
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Must be a very old mag. 
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Originally Posted by Xtrmyorick
Apparently bikes are now classified as race cars. Or space ships. One of the two.
I guess the brand management team at a marquee like BMW would rather associate themselves with high zoot, high performance, high speed images painted by a race car (linking BMW Williams in the process) and space ship than a 'lowly" bike that at best trundles along at 30mph, CF bits notwithstanding. Associate up, not down the food chain
10-01-04, 05:49 PM
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Whabbout this thingy:
She's 140' of carbon - I'd be inclined to throw Mari Char IV into the aerospace grouping...
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She's 140' of carbon - I'd be inclined to throw Mari Char IV into the aerospace grouping...
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10-01-04, 07:51 PM
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Are you referring to this article.....
https://www.germancarfans.com/news.cf...001/bmw/1.html
... which includes this paragraph:
I believe they call this marketing.
https://www.germancarfans.com/news.cf...001/bmw/1.html
... which includes this paragraph:
Already used today to meet the most extreme requirements
So far carbon-fiber or composite carbon materials have been used mainly for individual components in aerospace and motorsport. Particularly where the material used has to withstand heavy loads whilst keeping weight to a minimum and thus offering supreme stiffness and strength, designers and construction engineers now use carbon-fiber-reinforced plastics to an increasing extent. The monocoque of the WilliamsF1 BMW FW 25 Formula One racing car, for example, is naturally made of this ultra-strong lightweight material.
So far carbon-fiber or composite carbon materials have been used mainly for individual components in aerospace and motorsport. Particularly where the material used has to withstand heavy loads whilst keeping weight to a minimum and thus offering supreme stiffness and strength, designers and construction engineers now use carbon-fiber-reinforced plastics to an increasing extent. The monocoque of the WilliamsF1 BMW FW 25 Formula One racing car, for example, is naturally made of this ultra-strong lightweight material.
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10-01-04, 08:34 PM
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Wait 'til you have to replace a monocoque carbon fiber component on a snobby brand name luxury car, and you'll realize you need the budget of NASA to own and maintain one.
10-02-04, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by livngood
Are you referring to this article.....
https://www.germancarfans.com/news.cf...001/bmw/1.html
... which includes this paragraph:
I believe they call this marketing.
https://www.germancarfans.com/news.cf...001/bmw/1.html
... which includes this paragraph:
I believe they call this marketing.
Nope, that wasn't it. They definitely didn't say "mainly" used by aerospace, etc. They most assuredly said "only."
10-02-04, 09:57 AM
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Oh no, a "journalist"... More likely a marketing droid didn't get the facts right. If this is the biggest "lie" that BMW ever told, I would give them the most honest company award.
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Originally Posted by Maj.Taylor
What does it matter that they said whatever they said?
10-02-04, 10:28 AM
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marketing is the word here... Probably not too many consumer car companies use carbon fibre in their cars.. well, except for trim on the dash boards(audi)
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Wow, some people are taking this way too seriously. I found it amusing that BMW was making a big deal about how they're working with this new space-age material that's both light and strong, and how they're so revolutionary in using it in their high performance cars, when in actuality the "lowly" bicycle has used it for years. Maj Taylor and operator are right, it doesn't matter, but then again, a lot of what's talked about in these forums doesn't "matter." I hope y'all never read posts by people who are proud of themselves for reaching a certain goal, because I'm sure it doesn't matter to you, either. I thought some people on the forums might be slightly interested in this, so decided to post it. If you're not one of those people, don't feel compelled to waste the 20 seconds it takes to tell me so.
10-02-04, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Xtrmyorick
Wow, some people are taking this way too seriously. I found it amusing that BMW was making a big deal about how they're working with this new space-age material...
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Originally Posted by halfspeed
What gear ratio would it take to launch a Trek 5200 free of the Earth's gravity well? Where's 53-11 when you need him.
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Originally Posted by JavaMan
The Earth's escape velocity is 17500 miles per hour. At a cadence of 90 rpm, I think I can go 17.5 mph in about a 53-20. To go 1000 times faster than this would require a 53000-20 at 90 rpm, or a 53-20 at 90000 rpm. You would have a race car and spaceship at the same time.
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....Mr 53-11 alltheway could push that in his sleep.......know install a 180cm crank & a 60tooth big ring & he'll blast out of this solarsystem & be back in time for lunch to tell us all about it!....(& then get upset cos no-one will believe him!).....LOL
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10-04-04, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JavaMan
The Earth's escape velocity is 17500 miles per hour.
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10-04-04, 09:45 AM
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This has nothing to do with the original post...but...
What is the difference between a BMW and a porcupine?
A BMW has the prick on the inside....
What is the difference between a BMW and a porcupine?
A BMW has the prick on the inside....
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[FONT=Tahoma]I think the editorial boys must be on pot...
BMW does have a racing bike, not that anyone would order it...
but it's called Q8.R
You can go and check it out here - https://www.bmw-online.com/PIKE_e.asp...tive&ref=e&md=
BMW does have a racing bike, not that anyone would order it...
but it's called Q8.R
You can go and check it out here - https://www.bmw-online.com/PIKE_e.asp...tive&ref=e&md=
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Or you could special order the CF3 in Ferrari..um..Yellow. Though I'd think you'd need to be well connected to snag one of these limited 750 carbon fibre beauties.