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Old 12-12-10, 11:44 AM
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3 feet rule for cyclists?

I hate it when a car comes too close when passing but today I had a cyclist come way too close and nearly caused me to crash. I came within inches of running off the road.

I was going up a steep slope where it would be better to stand than sit but I sat so I could work on those particular muscles for climbing in the saddle. I heard someone approach from behind, panting heavily and when he passed he brushed my shoulder with his. He was wobbling all over the road with the effort of getting up the slope and his back wheel nearly touched my front wheel as he crossed in front of me.

I was so shocked, I gasped and said "sht" out loud as I slammed the brakes on to avoid wheels touching. He just raised his hand up and carried on. I would like to think it was a hand gesture of apology but I'm not sure.
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Ride faster and you won't have this problem.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Ride faster and you won't have this problem.
You may have a point. I was park riding today and I didn't pass anyone. I must have been passed every 100 yards or so.
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What's wrong with standing?
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
What's wrong with standing?
Nothing. I would normally stand to get up that slope because I found it hard to push hard enough while seated. I was trying to remedy this by forcing myself to sit all the way to the top to develop the muscles.
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Originally Posted by coasting
He was wobbling all over the road with the effort of getting up the slope and his back wheel nearly touched my front wheel as he crossed in front of me.
Sounds like he was in his pain cave and not fully in control of his bike. All bets are off in that situation; having said that nearly clipping your front wheel is stoopid riding on his part.
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Sheesh, you were "park riding" and didn't pass a single person? And you were passed every 100 yards? And your handle is "coasting"?

Do you think this is the right forum for this question? Although this forum is "Road Cycling" and not "Racing," the spirit of the forum is going faster and/or climbing better and/or efficiency and/or equipment. [And lots of drivel, of course!]

I am a novice but I've done LOTS of group rides. I've learned from long-time riders that "brushed shoulders" doesn't matter. I don't know your details, but it's possible that "his back wheel nearly touched my front wheel as he crossed in front of me" might not have been cause for concern by the standards of experienced riders. Or maybe the rider was an incompetent jerk!
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Originally Posted by hobkirk
Sheesh, you were "park riding" and didn't pass a single person? And you were passed every 100 yards? And your handle is "coasting"?

Do you think this is the right forum for this question? Although this forum is "Road Cycling" and not "Racing," the spirit of the forum is going faster and/or climbing better and/or efficiency and/or equipment. [And lots of drivel, of course!]

I am a novice but I've done LOTS of group rides. I've learned from long-time riders that "brushed shoulders" doesn't matter. I don't know your details, but it's possible that "his back wheel nearly touched my front wheel as he crossed in front of me" might not have been cause for concern by the standards of experienced riders. Or maybe the rider was an incompetent jerk!
no. you don't brush shoulders or cut across and cross wheels with a person you're not riding with. Bumping is understood in fast rides, and rides amongst people that know each other and trust each other. If some guy passes me so close that he touches me, we'll soon be having a pleasant discussion off the bike, there is no reason for that. Also, coasting has nearly 12,000 posts on this forum, i'm fairly certain he was being facetious about the ride in the park, but with coasting you never know.
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Originally Posted by Beaker
Sounds like he was in his pain cave and not fully in control of his bike. All bets are off in that situation; having said that nearly clipping your front wheel is stoopid riding on his part.
Yep. At least he apologized (gesture). I don't think a new rule would prevent anything; it wasn't ignorance, just accident.
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Originally Posted by hobkirk
Sheesh, you were "park riding" and didn't pass a single person?
And he calls himself a road cyclist. . .
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A good cyclist, even in his/her "pain cave", doesn't allow himself/herself to ride that sloppy, especially around other riders. FULLSTOP.... NO ARGUMENT

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Originally Posted by hobkirk
Sheesh, you were "park riding" and didn't pass a single person? And you were passed every 100 yards? And your handle is "coasting"?

Do you think this is the right forum for this question? Although this forum is "Road Cycling" and not "Racing," the spirit of the forum is going faster and/or climbing better and/or efficiency and/or equipment. [And lots of drivel, of course!]

I am a novice but I've done LOTS of group rides. I've learned from long-time riders that "brushed shoulders" doesn't matter. I don't know your details, but it's possible that "his back wheel nearly touched my front wheel as he crossed in front of me" might not have been cause for concern by the standards of experienced riders. Or maybe the rider was an incompetent jerk!
So it's my fault! Actually I was taking it easy today. I didn't really feel like riding but I dragged myself out there. Do I get some HTFU points?
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Coasting. I know what you mean about working a different group of muscles when sitting vs. standing.
I try to sit as much or as long as possible.
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Coasting. I know what you mean about working a different group of muscles when sitting vs. standing.
I try to sit as much or as long as possible.
Actually I was surprised i had trouble sitting. I am terrible at standing climbing but once the climb gets to a certain steepness, the body weight is necessary even if I can't do it that smoothly. that's why I wanted to get my sitting strength up so I wouldn't need to stand.
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3ft rule is good, but you'd need 3ft of width in the first place.
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Originally Posted by Beaker
... All bets are off in that situation;
I'm not sure what this means in this context. He's a menace to others.
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I'm not sure what this means in this context. He's a menace to others.
Since the guy was not in control of his bike, there's not much chance of him following any rules of conduct. Not condoning folks who can't ride/control their bike.
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Next time this happens, throw an elbow. Then, bunny hop over the jerkface.

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