rpenmanparker 

I love the domes and find them just as quiet as any other cassette with the KMC SL chains. They shift well for me, but I am also running Red RD and shifter. DSFDF (different strokes for different folks)

gc3

Yeah. I'm not really into it beyond what I've got in it. Ritchey seatpost at 148 grams. Thomson handlebars under 190 grams. eebrakes under 200 grams with pads. I ride with relatively heavy Prologo Scratch Nack saddle about 170 grams and Zipp 202 clinchers at 1353 grams. I have lighter saddle, wheels etc that I stopped using but would drop weight by 200 grams. I went back to Dura-Ace 9000 crank which was about 200 grams heavier than the Cannondale crankset I had but couldn't get dialed in exactly with the Shimano components. I understand that SRAM Red would also significantly reduce weight. Basically, I prefer my current setup as a daily rider, including "heavy" leather bar tape and metal bar end plugs with aesthetics I like. You're right it wouldn't be that hard for me to below 13 pounds, not at all...I could get halfway there without spending another penny with the spare parts I have...

Currently right here...6.38 kg

gc3

You know I did the same thing, and have come to the same conclusion...just a tiny bit of noise in a couple of combinations...but I do like the SRAM 11 speed 11-28 cog selection better than DA 11 speed options

robbyville

yeah I may try a kmc 11spd chain upon next replacement to see if any different.

robbyville

LOL, I do know, you're the reason I did the same!
I agree though, having that 16t cog has been great. I did my first couple of crits with it, and I find the jump much easier than with the DA, especially on flats while seated.

Now I'm looking at that mcx expander plug.

When I first built the bike I was leaning towards the weight stuff, had the bike at 14lbs 4 oz with the Domane frame and November 38mm deep carbons. Then I started to have problems with the gum gum expander and went more traditional adding weight plus of course the Rail's which which are around 150g heavier than the 38's were. So I started to care less and haven't weighed anything recently. Now I'm starting to lean back to weight savings as I need to replace items like saddle, etc.

rpenmanparker 

In fairness I should mention I quote weights without pedals, bottle cages, and computer/fittings. To me that is the best way to get comparisons between bikes. I call it showroom or catalog condition. But no doubt if you can get your weight with all that stuff, that is even better.

sbxx1985 

I spent some time looking through the stuff at Cycling Technology. A lot of the WW parts are expensive, useless junk. I felt like I could snap the 120mm AX stem. That's just dumb.

sbxx1985 

I have the carbon wrapped version. Used it for a few years. It's light, but it's not very stiff. Out of the three upper tier stems I've used a lot (Deda Newton, EDGE/ENVE), it had the most flex. Once I bought the EDGE stem, the OS-99 CSI was done.

sbxx1985 

I agree with computer stuff, but I think pedals and cages are part of the game.

rpenmanparker 

Do you know specifically how the all Al OS-99 would compare? I ride mostly 110 mm ones and find them to weigh around 120 g. Stiff enough for me. Is that Enve Al or carbon? Looks like Al from here. Just wondering.

rpenmanparker 

It is hard to get agreement across the board on this question, I recognize that. I just feel the standard weight should be of the bike as it comes from the factory. And it helps to know how much your own add-ons weigh, you own pedals, cages, and computer stuff. That way you know what a bike weighs in the basic state and what it would weigh as you would ride it. Best of both worlds the way I see it. Makes comparisons to what others post much easier.

sbxx1985 

FSA claimed the CSI was carbon structural integration, or something like that. It was supposed to make the stem stiffer. Realistically, it was to bling it out and match the bars. Maybe it's better with 110mm. Those are both 120mm.

EDGE stem is carbon.

sbxx1985 

The people that weigh without pedals have heavy pedals.

rpenmanparker 

Funny! Mine are 240 g Look Keos. Kind of middle of the road, no?

Here is the thing. You might say I like that bike and want to duplicate it to get the same weight. But, hold on, no way am I going to use those pedals. So it is a personal modification to a package you otherwise go along with.

jmX

UCI weighs the bike with cages and pedals, and I think they set the standard. I think that's also typically how bike weights are posted on forums.

Manufacturers don't include those parts in the weight since those parts don't come from the factory, but us customers are dealing with complete bikes. If you chose heavy 240g pedals, then so be it, but it's part of your bikes weight.

sbxx1985 

sbxx1985 

bianchi10

I dont consider it real bike weight without pedals or cages.

rpenmanparker 

I see the problem here. You guys are posting weights for bragging rights. Yep, you can't leave off something to make the bike seem lighter and get away with it if that is what your claim is about. And as for UCI, that 's a whole different thing, regulating bikes that are right there, ready to race.

But if the purpose is to share information about what a particular build weighs to help the reader instead of for bragging, I still think the factory state is the right basis for comparison. I am not trying to hide anything, just to provide everybody the ability to compare bike weights as they would personally ride them. That's why having the weight of your own personal set of add ons and the factory weight of the bikes is so effective. You know exactly what any bike you read about would weigh AS YOU WOULD RIDE IT. Makes sense to me.

shoota 

I agree, the weight should include pedals and cages.

gc3

I'm with you on that, in many cases. I often ask the guys at fairwheelbikes if I have a question about weight versus value versus durability etc. They do lots of ww builds, what they tell me makes sense, and they don't always recommend the highest price item. Hey, I don't really do it for ww bragging rights, not that there's anything wrong with that.

jmX

Ok, so to get this Venge to 14.99lbs was a pain. Aero 58cm frames are not easy to get under 15!
1) I drilled out the specialized saddle clamp and cut off 10g of excess material.
2) Got some titanium bolts for the saddle clamp, and the 2 seatpost clamp bolts. The stock clamps are still heavy, along with the seatpost, but I don't have other options. 8g
3) Cut off 3" from the seatpost. 14g
4) Ti bolts on the speedplays. Already had Ti spindles
5) light headset spacer. 1g
6) Swapped the 10,000mi used DuraAce cassette for XG-1090 - 25g.

Other than that, it's DA7900 I had in a box with a heavy 265g aero handlebar, aero frame, and aero clinchers. I'm very happy with the way it came out.

shoota 

I whole-heartedly approve. That is one sexy bike and a really great picture as well.

VA_Esquire

My tarmac with Ultegra Di2 weighs almost 17 pounds.....why are they so heavy????

Silvercivic27