A. Schleck voided his warranty
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A. Schleck voided his warranty
Looks like he filed off his lawyer tabs and didn't put a 5mm spacer under his stem. Hope he doesn't have to file a claim..
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They will get him for that.
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I want to file down my lawyer lips but don't know exactly how to.
I will ask Andy next time I see him.
I will ask Andy next time I see him.
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I guess not ..... use a file. Sanding block would work. Bench grinder or belt sander work too.
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My last bike didn't have these stupid things...they really do seem to defeat the purpose of the quick release.
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Files usually only cut in one direction. You'll dull it otherwise.
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I knew Andy had started up his own team after the TDF but I didn't know he's now on a Trek....no more Specialized for him, eh?
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They are those stupid tabs on your front fork, also known as lawyer lips.
In the old days forks didn't have them, you could undo your QR and drop the wheel out....now you have to unscrew the qr several turns. I believe this came from a lawsuit where a wheel came off because it was not tightened properly, hence the name "lawyer" tabs or "lawyer" lips.
PS below is a cut/paste from Sheldon Brown's glossary:
Lawyer Lips, Lawyer Tabs
Because some bicycle users are competent enough to remove their front wheels but not competent enough to secure them properly when they reinstall them, virtually all new bike purchasers have been deprived of the handy function of quick-release front wheels.
This has been done by encumbering fork ends with extra hardware, ridges or lumps that keep the wheel sort-of attached even if it has been installed by someone who doesn't know what he or she is doing. Unfortunately, this means that the quick-release mechanism must be re-adjusted each time it is used, seriously slowing down the operation.
Since this extra stuff was installed as a defense against frivolous lawsuits by ambulance-chasing shysters, the extra bumps are sometimes known as "lawyer lips" or "lawyer tabs."
As "lawyer lips" have become the norm, they have gradually become more important than they originally were, for two reasons:
In the old days forks didn't have them, you could undo your QR and drop the wheel out....now you have to unscrew the qr several turns. I believe this came from a lawsuit where a wheel came off because it was not tightened properly, hence the name "lawyer" tabs or "lawyer" lips.
PS below is a cut/paste from Sheldon Brown's glossary:
Lawyer Lips, Lawyer Tabs
Because some bicycle users are competent enough to remove their front wheels but not competent enough to secure them properly when they reinstall them, virtually all new bike purchasers have been deprived of the handy function of quick-release front wheels.
This has been done by encumbering fork ends with extra hardware, ridges or lumps that keep the wheel sort-of attached even if it has been installed by someone who doesn't know what he or she is doing. Unfortunately, this means that the quick-release mechanism must be re-adjusted each time it is used, seriously slowing down the operation.
Since this extra stuff was installed as a defense against frivolous lawsuits by ambulance-chasing shysters, the extra bumps are sometimes known as "lawyer lips" or "lawyer tabs."
As "lawyer lips" have become the norm, they have gradually become more important than they originally were, for two reasons:
- The prevalence of these secondary retention systems in front, and vertical dropouts in the rear has caused the proliferation of inferior skewer designs that are cheaper to manufacture, but much less secure than traditional skewers.
See my Article on Quick Release Skewers. - The introduction of disc brakes has caused increased vulnerability of the front axle and skewer, due to the disc brake applying an ejection force that tends to pull the axle out of the fork. See James Annan's article on disk brake wheel ejection.
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Lawyer tabs make them what i call "not-so-quick" release. The best analogy I can come up with would be someone with ED going to an adult book store.
Schlecks on Treks.....sounds like bad movie.
Know a guy working up there who was twittering about making the rigs a few weeks back.
anyone else catch how that bontrager rim almost looks like the old Zipp mold/construction?
Schlecks on Treks.....sounds like bad movie.
Know a guy working up there who was twittering about making the rigs a few weeks back.
anyone else catch how that bontrager rim almost looks like the old Zipp mold/construction?
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Most carbon frames will have aluminum dropouts. It is there you will find the tabs. You can file carbon dropouts as well.....just....have fun with that.
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Use a fairly fine tooth file or medium grit paper.
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FWIW - i use a nice carbide file I picked up as we closed down a plant a few years back. As mentioned before - files only cut in 1 direction - run it only in that direction. Don't run it backwards or you will clog it and/or dull it.
when cutting use long strokes, hold it flat with 2 hands and use even pressure - slow long stokes will get you done faster and do a better job that just jumping on it with short fast strokes...
Let me say that again "use long strokes, hold it flat with 2 hands and use even pressure - slow long stokes will get you done faster and do a better job that just jumping on it with short fast strokes..."...
when cutting use long strokes, hold it flat with 2 hands and use even pressure - slow long stokes will get you done faster and do a better job that just jumping on it with short fast strokes...
Let me say that again "use long strokes, hold it flat with 2 hands and use even pressure - slow long stokes will get you done faster and do a better job that just jumping on it with short fast strokes..."...
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FWIW - i use a nice carbide file I picked up as we closed down a plant a few years back. As mentioned before - files only cut in 1 direction - run it only in that direction. Don't run it backwards or you will clog it and/or dull it.
when cutting use long strokes, hold it flat with 2 hands and use even pressure - slow long stokes will get you done faster and do a better job that just jumping on it with short fast strokes...
Let me say that again "use long strokes, hold it flat with 2 hands and use even pressure - slow long stokes will get you done faster and do a better job that just jumping on it with short fast strokes..."...
when cutting use long strokes, hold it flat with 2 hands and use even pressure - slow long stokes will get you done faster and do a better job that just jumping on it with short fast strokes...
Let me say that again "use long strokes, hold it flat with 2 hands and use even pressure - slow long stokes will get you done faster and do a better job that just jumping on it with short fast strokes..."...
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Where are all the paranoid rants that removing lawyer lips will make the frame explode ?
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