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    CAAD10 5 105 vs CAAD10 4 Rival. Black vs White.

    I am really vacillating between these two and can't make up my mind. One of the reasons is that I really like the white with blue of CAAD10 4. It also has better components. Costs $200 extra. CAAD10 5 comes in red and black, and I only like the black. Even though I told the shop to get me CAAD10 5, I am almost considering calling them tomorrow AM and asking them to change the order to the white Rival. I might have to wait longer since they're all out. If there are good technical/quality justifications, it would be easier to justify the switch, but color alone makes it irrational to pay $200 extra. In theory, some of the components are "better," but that's relative since both these bikes have quality components that should last.

    One question I had: are there disadvantages to either of the colors? Does the white get dirtier sooner? On the other hand, since I am driving in dusty environments, wouldn't black actually show dust more readily?

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    I've got a white CAAD9, and it shows the slightest amount of grease from chain slap. As for dirt, it's probably a toss-up between black and white, with blue being a little better. My next bike (Synapse) will be black.
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    are you kidding me?

    colour is the most important buying decision for a bike.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    I thought that Rival was lighter and that is a big factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by v70cat View Post
    I thought that Rival was lighter and that is a big factor.
    I personally also prefer the way it shifts...

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    White 10-4 with Rival, but then I'm biased....




    I wouldn't worry about dirt. Bikes get dirty, but buy the one at will put the biggest smug grin on your face.

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    I like the black




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    I'd go with the 10-4 for Rival.
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    Take my advice. Get the Rival bike. I have a 2010 CAAD9-5 with 105. It's the compact 50/34 and I really wish I had the Rival standard. I've never been happy with my 105 shifting on that compact. I've had every "expert" mechanic (well, three of them from three different shops) adjust my bike and within a couple months it's dropping the chain on large chainring shifts or the rear derailuer needs more adjustment, etc. I've never been happy with it from day one.

    Rival is lighter and I like the way it shifts. I want to switch my bike to Rival now and you know how much that will cost me? Somewhere around $500 just for the chainring, cassette, front and rear derailuer and chain. That's not even including the brakes.

    For $200 my opinion is you'd be foolish not to go with the Rival bike but you're probably going to get 10 people here to tell you that their 105 compact is the best shifting bike they've ever had.

    Good luck to you. The bike itself is simply awesome!

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    Go with the gut. Get the One with Rival I say. If you prefer the paintand like the components then do it up!

    You will regret it later if you are hemming and hawing over 200 bucks which are justified in the upgrade from 105 to Rival (Atleast IMO)

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    I went for Rival after the first test ride. I really liked it better than 105. Worth the difference in my mind. However, you can change components if you want. Much harder to change color. Best is to get both color and components you want, but you could sell off the 105 group and get Rival or whatever you want. If you really want one color, see if the lbs will upgrade the components for you. I did that on a mtb I bought. I didn't want the pricer level up but did want the shifters so they gave me credit for the current ones and upgraded me for not much extra.

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    Dude you've posted about this a bunch of times. Everyone said Rival is superior, not to mention 500 grams lighter.

    Saving 500 grams from a mid-to-high-end bike costs people thousands of dollars sometimes. You can do it off the bat for $200.

    It has a much better crank, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accordion View Post
    Take my advice. Get the Rival bike. I have a 2010 CAAD9-5 with 105. It's the compact 50/34 and I really wish I had the Rival standard. I've never been happy with my 105 shifting on that compact. I've had every "expert" mechanic (well, three of them from three different shops) adjust my bike and within a couple months it's dropping the chain on large chainring shifts or the rear derailuer needs more adjustment, etc. I've never been happy with it from day one.

    Rival is lighter and I like the way it shifts. I want to switch my bike to Rival now and you know how much that will cost me? Somewhere around $500 just for the chainring, cassette, front and rear derailuer and chain. That's not even including the brakes.


    2011 105 is improved and better.

    For $200 my opinion is you'd be foolish not to go with the Rival bike but you're probably going to get 10 people here to tell you that their 105 compact is the best shifting bike they've ever had.

    Good luck to you. The bike itself is simply awesome!

    2011 105 is improved and better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revchuck View Post
    I've got a white CAAD9, and it shows the slightest amount of grease from chain slap. As for dirt, it's probably a toss-up between black and white, with blue being a little better. My next bike (Synapse) will be black.
    When I get my CAAD, I am going to degrease the entire chain/cranks and apply White Lightning wax, which should take care of the grease slap.

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    I got the Rival, white. Actually $300 more. But whatever. I might even get it by the end of this week. At least this is exactly what I want + compact.

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    Pics please also weight it stock without pedals for us.

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    The shop is going to put on the pedals and the rubber linings between the tube and the tire. I will ask them to weigh it before they do that and hope they remember. Pictures are not a problem.

    I got this black cage based on the black CAAD10 5 I was getting and now I wonder if that black will also go with the white frame or will I have to replace it with white. Anyone has tried this on a white frame? Might add a nice contrast. Or maybe not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiuBWhy View Post
    I'd go with the 10-4 for Rival.
    so many 105 hater's

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusted_rider View Post
    so many 105 hater's
    Dude, I've lived with 105 for almost 6000 miles now. Count me in as a hater. I've got the experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kabex View Post
    Dude you've posted about this a bunch of times. Everyone said Rival is superior, not to mention 500 grams lighter.

    Saving 500 grams from a mid-to-high-end bike costs people thousands of dollars sometimes. You can do it off the bat for $200.

    It has a much better crank, too.
    +1 Going from caad-10-5 to caad-10-4 will save you about a pound for only about $300 (up here in Canada)

    Upgrades later, are approx for every pound off your bike makes your wallet $1000 lighter

    What I do not fully understand ,why so many weight weenie riders, does that 500 grams/1 pound really make that much of a difference to most of us
    What i love about the caad bikes is the total bike weight equals many more expensive carbon rides

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    As long as you make sure the 105 is 5700 (no nasty cables from the brifters), the 10-5 is a solid bike. With that said, I would do the 10-4 without question. Force crank with Sram BB30 BB or FSA crap everywhere on your bike? No brainer, I say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusted_rider View Post
    so many 105 hater's
    I ride 105. I wouldn't say I hate it, but I can definitely appreciate the quality of SRAM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Excelsius View Post
    The shop is going to put on the pedals and the rubber linings between the tube and the tire. I will ask them to weigh it before they do that and hope they remember. Pictures are not a problem.

    I got this black cage based on the black CAAD10 5 I was getting and now I wonder if that black will also go with the white frame or will I have to replace it with white. Anyone has tried this on a white frame? Might add a nice contrast. Or maybe not.
    what pedals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLR_0719 View Post
    what pedals?
    Was going to get SPD-SL, but went for Shimano 105. Paid $56, not 110 as listed now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accordion View Post
    Dude, I've lived with 105 for almost 6000 miles now. Count me in as a hater. I've got the experience.


    I had Sora for a couple thousand miles and I didn't even "hate" that. Complaining that you hate 105 is like complaining that you hate your Ford because it doesn't have a GM badge on it

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