A Wheelset Build Log (1268g clinchers for $400?) Photo Heavy.
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A Wheelset Build Log (1268g clinchers for $400?) Photo Heavy.
This is going to be a build log of my 1268g (estimated) wheel-set, the budget is right around $400. I'm doing this to keep from going up the wall waiting for the rest of my parts to come in...be faster ups, faster.
Components, weights, cost.
Rims: IRD Cadence Road (20, 24) 390g, $50
Spokes: Spaim CX-Rays (44 count) 198g, $120
Nipples: Generic Brass (44 count) 17.6g, $15
Hubset: Taiwanese Generic F (20h) : 65g
6-pawl R (24h) : 208g $130
Totals................ 1268.6g / $365
I've got $35 to cover the incidentals like rim tape, lube, etc.
The hubs arrived on Friday, I'm rather impressed at the quality for the cost. I don't have much to say about them at the moment, they don't shoot lasers or sing me lullabies but from what I can tell, seem very high quality.
The 6-pawl system feels/ sounds a lot like the Chris King hub sets I've played around with. I look forward to winding them up and feeling like I'm being chased by a hornets nest. I'll be able to provide a more complete review once the wheel-set is built up.
Feel free to pm me for the seller I used for the hubs, he's a fellow BF'er and a very nice guy.
Now, finally, pictures!
Also pictured are some Ti QR's that I got through the same BF'er. 48g/pair. I'm excited to test these out more thoroughly. After a quick test ride with them, they were forgettable...exactly what I want in my skewers. Flip them and forget them.
For the camera nerds: Cannon EOS Rebel XT w. EFS 18-55mm lens
Components, weights, cost.
Rims: IRD Cadence Road (20, 24) 390g, $50
Spokes: Spaim CX-Rays (44 count) 198g, $120
Nipples: Generic Brass (44 count) 17.6g, $15
Hubset: Taiwanese Generic F (20h) : 65g
6-pawl R (24h) : 208g $130
Totals................ 1268.6g / $365
I've got $35 to cover the incidentals like rim tape, lube, etc.
The hubs arrived on Friday, I'm rather impressed at the quality for the cost. I don't have much to say about them at the moment, they don't shoot lasers or sing me lullabies but from what I can tell, seem very high quality.
The 6-pawl system feels/ sounds a lot like the Chris King hub sets I've played around with. I look forward to winding them up and feeling like I'm being chased by a hornets nest. I'll be able to provide a more complete review once the wheel-set is built up.
Feel free to pm me for the seller I used for the hubs, he's a fellow BF'er and a very nice guy.
Now, finally, pictures!
Also pictured are some Ti QR's that I got through the same BF'er. 48g/pair. I'm excited to test these out more thoroughly. After a quick test ride with them, they were forgettable...exactly what I want in my skewers. Flip them and forget them.
For the camera nerds: Cannon EOS Rebel XT w. EFS 18-55mm lens
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*Side note: The hubs came pre-slotted. That makes me a little nervous but, I'm just not a fan of slotted hubs. We'll have to wait and see if my initial unease means anything.They're warrantied for a few years, I believe. So, if a flange does crack, I will hopefully be covered.
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Have fun with the build. Can't wait to see them finished.
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I've been looking at doing this myself. I have some Kinlin hoops in the garage that could build up pretty light with the right parts. Can I ask where you got the hubs?
edit: Just saw your note on the seller of the hubs. PM on its way.
edit: Just saw your note on the seller of the hubs. PM on its way.
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What a cool wintertime project! Keep us posted with pics as you build. Not to be a knucklehead, but it seems like you paid a premium for your spokes. For my last wintertime project build, the spokes were what my LBS had in stock and worked fine.
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Very nice. I'll like to see how this turns out.
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Well,
with only 6 pawls I am not sure you can compare the hubs to Chris King. The lighter R45 CK hubs have I believe 45 pawls, while the standard class hubs have 72. Your hubs likely will have a longer time period before engagement when accelerating or getting out of the saddle.
I know you get what you pay for, so I do wonder what sacrifice was made to get it to that light weight at that price. Labor costs are an issue - but also material quality and overall build quality of the hubs likely were sacrificed to get to that price.
with only 6 pawls I am not sure you can compare the hubs to Chris King. The lighter R45 CK hubs have I believe 45 pawls, while the standard class hubs have 72. Your hubs likely will have a longer time period before engagement when accelerating or getting out of the saddle.
I know you get what you pay for, so I do wonder what sacrifice was made to get it to that light weight at that price. Labor costs are an issue - but also material quality and overall build quality of the hubs likely were sacrificed to get to that price.
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Well,
with only 6 pawls I am not sure you can compare the hubs to Chris King. The lighter R45 CK hubs have I believe 45 pawls, while the standard class hubs have 72. Your hubs likely will have a longer time period before engagement when accelerating or getting out of the saddle.
with only 6 pawls I am not sure you can compare the hubs to Chris King. The lighter R45 CK hubs have I believe 45 pawls, while the standard class hubs have 72. Your hubs likely will have a longer time period before engagement when accelerating or getting out of the saddle.
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I've been thinking about a nearly identical wheel build. I've got it in my head to use Velocity A-23s though. Verrry interested to see how yours goes.
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Where do you get your information, or is this pure speculation?
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Well,
with only 6 pawls I am not sure you can compare the hubs to Chris King. The lighter R45 CK hubs have I believe 45 pawls, while the standard class hubs have 72. Your hubs likely will have a longer time period before engagement when accelerating or getting out of the saddle.
I know you get what you pay for, so I do wonder what sacrifice was made to get it to that light weight at that price. Labor costs are an issue - but also material quality and overall build quality of the hubs likely were sacrificed to get to that price.
with only 6 pawls I am not sure you can compare the hubs to Chris King. The lighter R45 CK hubs have I believe 45 pawls, while the standard class hubs have 72. Your hubs likely will have a longer time period before engagement when accelerating or getting out of the saddle.
I know you get what you pay for, so I do wonder what sacrifice was made to get it to that light weight at that price. Labor costs are an issue - but also material quality and overall build quality of the hubs likely were sacrificed to get to that price.
The buzzing noise of the CK's is a coupling of the high pawl count and high tooth count which results in a sound frequency with a period much shorter than the standard hub, e.g., a mothing ****ing swarm of bees. I appologize if my comparison sounded specious and overly hopeful. I know CK's don't show up at your doorstep for $100.
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The 390gram rims should be used with caution, especially with a 20/24 spoke count. If you didn't order the rims and spokes yet, I would seriously consider a 27mm Kinlin rim at least for the rear wheel.
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Kidding aside, I'm a sprinter and 165 lbs. I'm not a delicate rider, no matter how much I pray for narrow shoulders. I chose the SAPIM CX-Rays and the IRD for their robustness at lower counts over the standard spokes or Kinlin's XR200/300. I've heard better things from Clydes about the IRD over the Kinlin in regard to its durability. I'll be sure to provide a full report as my use progresses with them. I've got high hopes for the SAPIMs, they're the "splurge" item on my build that I'm hoping brings it into a higher class of quality.
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Can't wait to see the final outcome. I am considering building up a similar set for a friend + am curious to see your outcome.
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Sounds about right. I have a set that's verified at 1375g, and I have 12 more spokes than you, 14 of them are heavier Competitions, and my hubs are about 20g heavier. I built them when I weighed 160 and I would not have been willing to risk it with a 20/24 spoke count. YMMV
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