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sorebutt 10-26-04 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by WorldWind
How long could a bike hang from it’s wheel (indoors) without damage related to the hanging?

I’m going to guess 200 years. Because I am a conservative.

Depends of the weight of the bike.. According to my calculations (and I used Excel!) a 25lb bike could hang off its rims for 179 years and 16 days.. after that you will have to buy a new bike...

rwg 10-26-04 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by sorebutt
Depends of the weight of the bike.. According to my calculations (and I used Excel!) a 25lb bike could hang off its rims for 179 years and 16 days.. after that you will have to buy a new bike...

Why a whole new bike instead of a new wheel? Does the suspension cause the frame to fail? Or, if it's a carbon frame, perhaps the stress causes it to shatter? :D

ruirui 10-26-04 05:01 PM

lol.. u guys crack me up.. 2 more hrs to go before i rush to home depot..

orguasch 10-26-04 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ruirui
ok, i have a tandem style 2 car garage. so after my dad and I installed the DIY shelves we custom made, my dad was thinking about where to store my bike. he suggested that i get two hooks from Home Depot and hook it on there from the ceiling. but i thought perhaps hooking it by the front wheel will be good?

right now my bike weights a ton... actually 23lbs. so is it ok to hang by one wheel? my dad is afraid it might fall off cuz it won't support the weight.. what do you guys think?

rui

maybe later, you will have a post, I have my bike stolen from my garage, better listen to some of the members here and store your bike inside your house, and you will have a peace of mind in the long run,, I have made a bike hanger and it is right inside my living room. and if you will notice even in my lving room I have a u-lock on the wooden frame. I use the u-lock when ever I leave the house unattended.

gcasillo 10-26-04 06:23 PM

http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~bgambl...uest/noose.JPG

Happy Halloween!

sailor 10-26-04 07:04 PM

I actually hang mine by the seat from a towel hook on the wall in my dorm room. Works quite well, and is a good conversation piece, too.

ruirui 10-27-04 12:39 PM

ok.. here is the verdict. i got a hook from HD for 59 cents.. went home.. and used my stud finder and found a place to hang it from the ceiling. the hook has about 1 inch of thread exposed.. but when i started drilling a hole in the ceiling.. there was more than 1 inch of drywall. so i thought i give it try anyway and tried to screw the hook into the drywall as much as possible. in the end.. i have screwed in 1.25" of the hook.. which felt strong enough.

so.. after i put on my bike.. my rear wheel is 1 ft. from the ground. it's all good till i give it a test. i simulated people bumping into it... and after a couple bumps.. the hook became loose.. and as the bike wobbled.. i grabbed the bike before it came undone.

i then search for another place.. and same thing.. over 1" of thickness of pure drywall. so now.. i'm gonna go for a different way.. gonna look into the performance bike rack or something of that sort.

rwg 10-27-04 12:47 PM

You missed the stud. When you hit it, you will know and the hook will be difficult to screw in. In my garage, the dry wall ceiling is held onto the joists with a braket that leaves some space between the dry wall and the joists. I don't know why, but it makes a stud finder useless (and yes, I have a few spare holes b/c of it). If you can get up into the area above the dry wall, go up and take a look and make sure you are into the stud. If the hook really doesn't have enough thread to make it into the wood (honestly, very doubtful), get a different hook.

neuronbliss 10-27-04 01:15 PM

Or, the hole you drilled was too large... (should be just a scad smaller than the inner diameter of screw).

ruirui 10-27-04 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by rwg
You missed the stud. When you hit it, you will know and the hook will be difficult to screw in. In my garage, the dry wall ceiling is held onto the joists with a braket that leaves some space between the dry wall and the joists. I don't know why, but it makes a stud finder useless (and yes, I have a few spare holes b/c of it). If you can get up into the area above the dry wall, go up and take a look and make sure you are into the stud. If the hook really doesn't have enough thread to make it into the wood (honestly, very doubtful), get a different hook.

yes, i agree. the stud finder is not very helpful.. cuz i've moved it around and it beeped.. but afterward u go back to the same place.. it's ain't beeping again. i have no access to the ceil part.. so i'm going with the side wall mount. i don't want my garage ceiling to look like a honey comb.


Originally Posted by neuronbliss
Or, the hole you drilled was too large... (should be just a scad smaller than the inner diameter of screw).

nope, the hole i drill was much smaller than the screw.

sorebutt 10-27-04 04:36 PM

this is the type of hook you will need. It is availabel in our area (OSH)... http://doityourself.com/store/5545223.htm
http://doityourself.com/images/200x200/5545223.jpg

ruirui 10-27-04 06:37 PM

sorebutt.. that's the one i got.. except it's yellow. grrr.... i hate seeing holes in my ceiling.

Adgooroo 10-27-04 09:49 PM

[QUOTE=Now, the road bike ... technically that is furniture (when not being ridden), so it belongs inside the house. :)
Best.[/QUOTE]

Whoooa there.... a road bike is a WORK OF ART, not furniture!

WorldWind 10-28-04 05:08 PM

Stud finders sense the steel nails not the wood so you need to be smarter than the stud to find them. Test in several locations and draw lines and measure (studs are on 16" centers).

When you think you have narrowed down the area that it is located, drill a series of test holes with a 1/16" bit .... you should be able to tell the difference between sheetrock and wood.

after you have your hook secure into a stud fill all the little holes with spackle and repaint.

zip22 10-28-04 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by WorldWind
Stud finders sense the steel nails not the wood so you need to be smarter than the stud to find them.



wrong!

WorldWind 10-28-04 05:46 PM

mine has a magnet in a plastic arm that points to the nail head.

Avalanche325 10-28-04 05:49 PM

Just so you know. When you are riding your bike you are actually hanging form the top of the rims through the spokes. The spokes at the bottom are not holding your weight. So hanging by the wheel will be fine.

greywolf 10-28-04 06:46 PM

Old 10speed steel drop handle bars upside down mounted to the wall or ceiling make exellant bike storage for top tube supported storage .

rwg 10-28-04 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by WorldWind
Stud finders sense the steel nails not the wood so you need to be smarter than the stud to find them. Test in several locations and draw lines and measure (studs are on 16" centers).

When you think you have narrowed down the area that it is located, drill a series of test holes with a 1/16" bit .... you should be able to tell the difference between sheetrock and wood.

after you have your hook secure into a stud fill all the little holes with spackle and repaint.

Just to avoid mis-information, modern stud finders use sound waves to measure density. They don't use magnets at all, although I am sure there are some that will. Dry wall screws (which are sometimes used instead of nails) are galvanized I think. I don't know if that would interfere with a magnet or not.

Studs can be a variety of distances apart. The joists above my garage ceiling, for example, are 24" apart. They might also be 16" or, very rarely, 12."

Spackling is suprisingly easy. Don't be afraid to fix the holes if they bug you.

zip22 10-28-04 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by rwg
Just to avoid mis-information, modern stud finders use sound waves to measure density. They don't use magnets at all, although I am sure there are some that will.


just to prevent further misinformation, you're wrong again. see my post above (#40) or just ignore it and read this:

"Electronic stud finders changed all that. They give you an amazingly accurate view into the wall and show you exactly where each stud is. In a way, these stud finders are like a touch switch on a touch-sensitive lamp. They are using changes in capacitance to sense where the stud is.

When the plate inside the stud finder is over wall board, it will sense one dielectric constant (sort of like an insulating value); but when it is over a stud, the dielectric constant is different. It works on a capacitance differential generated by density difference. "

the dielectric constant is somewhat related to density, but in no way is it a direct relationship. and the sound waves part is absolutely wrong. thanks for helping "inform" us, though

edit: some may say they measure the density, but i am fairly certain it is marketing since "density" is easier to recognize than "dielectric constant"

Steelrider 10-29-04 12:25 AM


Originally Posted by ruirui
sorebutt.. that's the one i got.. except it's yellow. grrr.... i hate seeing holes in my ceiling.

Hey rui, don't mean to turn this into Tool Time, but I am assuming that the drywall was up in the garage when you bought the house. Generally, when they install drywall - especially in garages - they don't generally do a stellar job of taping/painting over the fasteners. The line of fasteners should tell you exactly where all the studs and beams are...I don't think finding the studs should be this much of an issue. What am I missing? The only reason this would not be obvious would be if they did the most meticulous job that I would have ever seen in a garage - even knowing where the drywall panels were taped and being able to see one line of fasteners next to it would tell you how many inches on center apart the studs/rafters are.

Later and good luck! :)

ruirui 10-29-04 12:42 AM

steelrider.. yes i drilled neared by the screw or the places where they've taped up. we've just painted the whole garage before...so i drill near the screws.

Steelrider 10-29-04 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by ruirui
steelrider.. yes i drilled neared by the screw or the places where they've taped up. we've just painted the whole garage before...so i drill near the screws.

Still don't understand why you're experiencing a problem. Take a long galvanized construction nail (or any other long nail) and tap where the drywall fasteners are and measure where it bites wood - that way you know how long the screw shank of the hook has to be after adding drywall depth. You can get hooks with a longer shank than the one shown in the previous post. No prob.

rwg 10-29-04 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by zip22
just to prevent further misinformation, you're wrong again. see my post above (#40) or just ignore it and read this:

"Electronic stud finders changed all that. They give you an amazingly accurate view into the wall and show you exactly where each stud is. In a way, these stud finders are like a touch switch on a touch-sensitive lamp. They are using changes in capacitance to sense where the stud is.

When the plate inside the stud finder is over wall board, it will sense one dielectric constant (sort of like an insulating value); but when it is over a stud, the dielectric constant is different. It works on a capacitance differential generated by density difference. "

the dielectric constant is somewhat related to density, but in no way is it a direct relationship. and the sound waves part is absolutely wrong. thanks for helping "inform" us, though

edit: some may say they measure the density, but i am fairly certain it is marketing since "density" is easier to recognize than "dielectric constant"

Bah. I didn't realize your first post was a link or I would have read it. I was thinking at the time that telling someone they are wrong without telling them why isn't very helpful. :rolleyes:

I am perfectly happy to admit being wrong. My explanation came from a guy selling the things in a hardware store and was obviously worth what I paid for it. How stuff works is a great site and I haven't ever heard of it giving a wrong explanation.

ruirui 10-29-04 11:33 AM

well.. i'm gonna give it another try... this weekend.. if all else fails.. i'm going to performance.. lol ;)


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