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Trek Madone 6.7 paint finish flaws ("haziness")?

Old 04-08-11, 10:02 AM
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Trek Madone 6.7 paint finish flaws ("haziness")?

New to the forums so if this post should be in one of the other forums please let me know.

I just purchased a 2011 Trek Madone 6.7 SSL. Love the bike but have noticed that on the black areas of the bike frame there appears to be some "haziness" in the clear coat in multiple areas. I'm not so concerned about this on the seat post area but there are multiple areas on the frame (top tube, rear stays, etc) where this "haziness" appears. I tried to polish an area and it did not appear to improve it so I believe this is something under the clear coat and related to the carbon fiber. This is not a carbon fiber "weave" issue....it is something else.

My main question is if other Trek owners have seen this? I have done some searching and have found at least on reference to this from another rider but thought I would see if there were others.
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Old 04-08-11, 10:09 AM
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I'll see if I can take some today. It may be hard to get the right lighting to show but we will see.
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Old 04-08-11, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by loren.betts
New to the forums so if this post should be in one of the other forums please let me know.

I just purchased a 2011 Trek Madone 6.7 SSL. Love the bike but have noticed that on the black areas of the bike frame there appears to be some "haziness" in the clear coat in multiple areas. I'm not so concerned about this on the seat post area but there are multiple areas on the frame (top tube, rear stays, etc) where this "haziness" appears. I tried to polish an area and it did not appear to improve it so I believe this is something under the clear coat and related to the carbon fiber. This is not a carbon fiber "weave" issue....it is something else.

My main question is if other Trek owners have seen this? I have done some searching and have found at least on reference to this from another rider but thought I would see if there were others.
I think the haziness you are seeing is the actual structure of the carbon fibers in the layup and it does not appear uniform because well they are not. Trek doesn't use a "cosmetic" layer of carbon fiber in their frames like specialized and the area that appears black may just well be carbon fiber with a clear coat. Pics would help tremendously however.
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Old 04-08-11, 10:25 AM
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Ignore seat post (I can understand that).



Flash made it look worse here than under normal light



Look under the "T"
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Old 04-08-11, 10:31 AM
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its raw carbon and unpainted so its just how the carbon is layed up. itll be fine
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Old 04-08-11, 10:34 AM
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To me it looks like they sprayed a metallic on the black.
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Maybe moot....when is "just purchased"? And did you walk out with the exact bike in the store, or they made one for you sight unseen based on a floor/demo model. IOW, shouldn't have walked out of the store unless you were completely satisfied and there were no apparent/obvious blemishes. If you just got it, as in, just the other day, talk to your LBS.
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Old 04-08-11, 10:41 AM
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Just got it. Ordered and was delivered from factory.
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Then you may have a legit warranty claim. Have you even ridden it? If you haven't, don't, until this is resolved to your satisfaction.
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The black painted areas on my 2010 P1 don't look like that, except on the seat post where there is a clear demarcation between painted and unpainted. Looks like it might have been made on the painters Friday.. that or they were going as thin as possible on the paint to save weight. If you don't like it, take it back. I say it's not normal.
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I've had it for a week and rode a few times. The dealer said there is a one year warranty on the paint when I emailed and questioned the markings. I guess I'll bring it in for them to look at.
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Not sure of how the 6 Series frames are manufactured, but I remember a few things after talking to Mr. Know-it-all at a Trek store last year. Judging from the pics taken, it looks like these are the areas where they bond the pieces together. It could be some kind of a reaction from the bonding agent with the paint job. I remember seeing the 5 Series frame with this kind of issue. It's not present on all of the frames though, so yours, if the 6Series is manufactured the same way a the 5, is one of a few that has this "unique" look! LOL
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It has nothing to do with the paint. That's what carbon fiber looks like. It is present on all the frames, it's just covered up by paint on many. The op's pics are raw carbon with clear coat(there is metal fleck in the clear coat). It's normal. Don't worry about it.
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I have the same haziness on my Cannondale.
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its normal...i personally think it looks pretty cool...
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Yeah, thats normal, thats how my madone was.
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Thanks all. Took bike in and compared against another series. I thought the same about the clear flake and that is what it is. The one I compared against did not have any flake and the carbon definitely showed more. All is well and I am happy. Picked up the white carbon stem while was there.
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now can we get overall pics of this hazy bike...
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Originally Posted by jcpups608
It has nothing to do with the paint. That's what carbon fiber looks like. It is present on all the frames, it's just covered up by paint on many. The op's pics are raw carbon with clear coat(there is metal fleck in the clear coat). It's normal. Don't worry about it.

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Dude... its clearcoat over carbon. That's what the carbon looks like. You're fine.
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How's the bottom bracket?
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More pics maybe this weekend. Rained some today so road Trek pilot on trainer. Wx better for weekend.

Bottom bracket? You mean for the Di2?
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No, she means the the bottom bracket shell will debond if you produce excess power.
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i think it looks normal. i've noticed that on my carbon under clearcoat and i've noticed it on other carbon bikes too.
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Has there been a history of issues with the bottom bracket?
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