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Old 07-17-11, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by learnmedia
Question for you TdF Vets. When was the last time that Mavic neutral support was used in the Tour? When is a rider ever caught without a team car with spare bikes available? Also, do the neutral support bikes have a choice of pedal systems?

Edit: Nevermind. Stopped being lazy and googled it.
Certainly not the last time Mavic was used, but this is by far one the greatest shots of someone utilizing neutral service:

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Originally Posted by learnmedia
So it's both boring and exciting?
Boring tour with a few exciting moments (tdf) vs an entirely exciting tour through all 21 stages (giro)!
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Originally Posted by Velo Gator
Why are you turning into Pcad? We don't need more than one.
I'm not turning into pcad. I am still much younger, faster, and better looking. Not to mention I don't have a silly octopus looking crankset, and a huge battery dangling off the side of my bike. Besides if he saw my post he would ask me why do I hate America, for watching European TV. I do however admire the way he works around the swear filter, and I started doing the same.
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Today was the most sublime, perfectly executed sprint lead-out I've seen since I started watching pro cycling.

Incredible work, surprised Cav only won by one wheel. I remember in '10(or '9?) him winning by waaay more than that with such a good train.

Maybe it was because of the perfect helicopter shot from like 1km to the finish line, amazing footage.
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Originally Posted by kabex
Today was the most sublime, perfectly executed sprint lead-out I've seen since I started watching pro cycling.
I don't remember which stage it was, but there was one before they got to the Massif that was as textbook and beautiful as they come. Thought it was a lot better than today's leadout.

by the way, i only mean from a technical viewpoint.

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Stage 3 was pretty good. Julian Dean, leading out Hushovd, who then led out Farrar. It's like they don't even try to get a good train going however when the HTC boys are up there.
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Originally Posted by kabex
Today was the most sublime, perfectly executed sprint lead-out I've seen since I started watching pro cycling.

Incredible work, surprised Cav only won by one wheel. I remember in '10(or '9?) him winning by waaay more than that with such a good train.

Maybe it was because of the perfect helicopter shot from like 1km to the finish line, amazing footage.
Yeah it was kinda fun to watch. For a second I thought maybe they worked too hard and were losing guys too quick, but Renshaw is more than enough by himself.

I also thought Cavendish's comments about the other teams not wanting to work were a bit silly. The other teams don't work for the sprints because they have GC guys, generally. Though I'm not sure what Garmin is thinking...Danielson for GC, really? I mean okay, but surely getting stage wins with Tyler is more important than a lower top-ten finish.

Also, no discussion about the comments regarding Cavendish's 'miraculous' comeback on the climb yesterday?
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Originally Posted by Velo Gator
Why are you turning into Pcad? We don't even need him.
Fixed.
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Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin
WTF does that have to do with the TDF?
Don't ask. You would not understand
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Voeckler admits that two more summit finishes — at the Galibier followed by L’Alpe d’Huez — and a 42.5km individual time trial in Grenoble will likely spell his doom.

“If I say it with any honesty at all, I have no chance to win the Tour this year,” Voeckler said. “There is still one week to race and this year’s Tour was designed to be won in the final week. I know how hard it will be.”


Of course, that's precisely what I would say if I were him, even if I thought I could actually win the TdF.
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Voeckler admits that two more summit finishes — at the Galibier followed by L’Alpe d’Huez — and a 42.5km individual time trial in Grenoble will likely spell his doom.

“If I say it with any honesty at all, I have no chance to win the Tour this year,” Voeckler said. “There is still one week to race and this year’s Tour was designed to be won in the final week. I know how hard it will be.”


Of course, that's precisely what I would say if I were him, even if I thought I could actually win the TdF.
It's going to be interesting. He looked very impressive on that last stage in the Pyrenees. He marked the attacks from Evans and the Schlecks and looked comfortable doing it.
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Originally Posted by Commodus
Yeah it was kinda fun to watch. For a second I thought maybe they worked too hard and were losing guys too quick, but Renshaw is more than enough by himself.

I also thought Cavendish's comments about the other teams not wanting to work were a bit silly. The other teams don't work for the sprints because they have GC guys, generally. Though I'm not sure what Garmin is thinking...Danielson for GC, really? I mean okay, but surely getting stage wins with Tyler is more important than a lower top-ten finish.

Also, no discussion about the comments regarding Cavendish's 'miraculous' comeback on the climb yesterday?
Yeah I agree, I thought Tylers comments a bit cheesy.
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who knows? I'm still pulling for Thor................. secretly of course.
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Originally Posted by halfspeed
There's more to the Tour than the GC guys battling it out in the mountains. The heroics of Thor Hushovd, Philipe Gilbert and Thomas Voeckler have all been quite entertaining and, for me, have made this a memorable Tour.
The uncertainty is what has sold it for me.
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I heard that. Was Tyler implying some funny business in Cavendoosh's 'miraculous' comeback in the mountains?
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I think he was simply referring to the massive amsounts of suffering he went through on the climb and getting over it so quickly to win today like nothing ever happened.
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Originally Posted by dgasmd
I think he was simply referring to the massive amsounts of suffering he went through on the climb and getting over it so quickly to win today like nothing ever happened.
Are you implying that he took some kind of supplement to aid in his recovery? Surely not!
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Originally Posted by kenji666
Are you implying that he took some kind of supplement to aid in his recovery? Surely not!
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Not implying anything. I was just saying what I think he was referring to. They had shots of Cavendish on VS huffing and puffing like a mule in labor going .3 mph up the climb yesterday with team members escorting him and pouring water over him, handing him bottles and pulling him along, etc. If I saw someone like that yesterday and then saw what I saw today I would have been as frustrated as Farrar was.
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Originally Posted by kabex
Today was the most sublime, perfectly executed sprint lead-out I've seen since I started watching pro cycling.

Incredible work, surprised Cav only won by one wheel. I remember in '10(or '9?) him winning by waaay more than that with such a good train.

Maybe it was because of the perfect helicopter shot from like 1km to the finish line, amazing footage.
It was very well done. However, check out stage 7 if you can. It gets no better.
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Check out the leadout Cavendish had a couple of years ago when he won on the Champs in Paris. Forget about it. Nobody was within 50 meters of his Manx ass. Most amazing and effective high octane leadout EVER.
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Originally Posted by BikerJoeP
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Check out the leadout Cavendish had a couple of years ago when he won on the Champs in Paris. Forget about it. Nobody was within 50 meters of his Manx ass. Most amazing and effective high octane leadout EVER.
Agreed, I saw that one too but it was a different thing. It was all about the final bend and Renshaw basically soloed it.

This was pure train action.
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Originally Posted by ravenmore
It's going to be interesting. He looked very impressive on that last stage in the Pyrenees. He marked the attacks from Evans and the Schlecks and looked comfortable doing it.
Yeah, but he's not a TT guy and the climbs in the Alps might not allow him to hold on, they're reportedly quite different from the Pyrenees. But you never know, right? That would really rock the Tour. I'd love to see Voeckler hold off everybody only to be nailed back by 10 seconds when Cadel rocks that final TT. Cadel is in the cat bird seat. If he can simply hang on to the GC boys on the climbs, I think he smokes them all in that TT. Cadel has looked better climbing this year than in recent years, and none of the GC boys seems to have the ability to launch a big attack that will stick on the climbs. They'll let Sammy Sanchez do that, but when Cadel, the Schlecks, Basso or any of the Big Boys try, they go nowhere without the other GC contenders.

Never count out Contador. He could come roaring back in the Alps after that rest day. I'm amazed people seem to forget the string of Grand Tours that man has won in the past 4 years.
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