I got booted from my group ride because I'm a triathlete (seriously).
07-26-11, 03:33 PM
#201
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 4,429
Bikes: 2013 orca
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
07-26-11, 03:36 PM
#203
Has coddling tendencies.
1. If you know anything about me you know that I am a slow fat roadie. If I let people passing me bother me I would be one hot bothered mess all the time.
2. It illustrates what most recreational riders (yes I categorize tryathletes at recreational) seem to not understand fully. They seem to think that racing is about being the fastest. Racing is actually about being first. There is a distinct difference.
2. It illustrates what most recreational riders (yes I categorize tryathletes at recreational) seem to not understand fully. They seem to think that racing is about being the fastest. Racing is actually about being first. There is a distinct difference.
07-26-11, 03:48 PM
#204
Super Modest
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 23,466
Bikes: Trek Emonda, Giant Propel, Colnago V3, Co-Motion Supremo, ICE VTX WC
Mentioned: 107 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10963 Post(s)
Liked 4,620 Times
in
2,123 Posts
07-26-11, 03:55 PM
#205
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Utah
Posts: 953
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Uh in a time trial situation isn't the person who comes in first place by definition the person who did the course fastest?
07-26-11, 04:00 PM
#206
fuggitivo solitario
most bike races aren't time trials, and time trials can't be used for upgrade points. If you are willing to tow me in a mass-start race, you are more than welcome to do so, and i'll be obliged to open it up 2 minutes before the end of the race (knowing that i'm not a pure sprinter) to thank you for your effort.
07-26-11, 04:14 PM
#207
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Utah
Posts: 953
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
most bike races aren't time trials, and time trials can't be used for upgrade points. If you are willing to tow me in a mass-start race, you are more than welcome to do so, and i'll be obliged to open it up 2 minutes before the end of the race (knowing that i'm not a pure sprinter) to thank you for your effort.
07-26-11, 04:25 PM
#210
Raising the Abyss
Neither is a time trial.
I think we're going in circles here.
I think we're going in circles here.
__________________
"...in Las Vegas where -the electric bills are staggering -the decor hog wild -and the entertainment saccharine -what a golden age -what a time of right and reason -the consumer's king -and unhappiness is treason..."
"...in Las Vegas where -the electric bills are staggering -the decor hog wild -and the entertainment saccharine -what a golden age -what a time of right and reason -the consumer's king -and unhappiness is treason..."
07-26-11, 04:26 PM
#212
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Northeast Ohio
Posts: 3,215
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I have a friend who's a triathlete. I swam w/ her in college. At the racine HIM she was top 5 out of the water, including pros...
She was a pretty good D3 swimmer, but it's not like she was winning nationals...and there were more than 4 pros at that race. Splitting your training between 3 sports inevitably leads to lower performance in each, aka mediocrity.
She was a pretty good D3 swimmer, but it's not like she was winning nationals...and there were more than 4 pros at that race. Splitting your training between 3 sports inevitably leads to lower performance in each, aka mediocrity.
07-26-11, 04:31 PM
#214
Raising the Abyss
Somebody please post something stupid and/or obnoxious and/or face-palmable --- it's more fun that way.
__________________
"...in Las Vegas where -the electric bills are staggering -the decor hog wild -and the entertainment saccharine -what a golden age -what a time of right and reason -the consumer's king -and unhappiness is treason..."
"...in Las Vegas where -the electric bills are staggering -the decor hog wild -and the entertainment saccharine -what a golden age -what a time of right and reason -the consumer's king -and unhappiness is treason..."
07-26-11, 04:34 PM
#216
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 8,550
Bikes: Wilier Izoard XP (Record);Cinelli Xperience (Force);Specialized Allez (Rival);Bianchi Via Nirone 7 (Centaur); Colnago AC-R Disc;Colnago V1r Limited Edition;De Rosa King 3 Limited(Force 22);DeRosa Merak(Red):Pinarello Dogma 65.1 Hydro(Di2)
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 551 Post(s)
Liked 277 Times
in
145 Posts
8 pages...yay! Just you wait until Justin becomes a triathlete...
07-26-11, 04:35 PM
#217
Raising the Abyss
Yes, thank you. Very commendable.
I just want to try and make sure this thread stays off the rails. I think there may have been 2 sensible posts in a row a minute or so ago and was starting to get worried.
I just want to try and make sure this thread stays off the rails. I think there may have been 2 sensible posts in a row a minute or so ago and was starting to get worried.
__________________
"...in Las Vegas where -the electric bills are staggering -the decor hog wild -and the entertainment saccharine -what a golden age -what a time of right and reason -the consumer's king -and unhappiness is treason..."
"...in Las Vegas where -the electric bills are staggering -the decor hog wild -and the entertainment saccharine -what a golden age -what a time of right and reason -the consumer's king -and unhappiness is treason..."
07-26-11, 04:36 PM
#218
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 3,456
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
I have a friend who's a triathlete. I swam w/ her in college. At the racine HIM she was top 5 out of the water, including pros...
She was a pretty good D3 swimmer, but it's not like she was winning nationals...and there were more than 4 pros at that race. Splitting your training between 3 sports inevitably leads to lower performance in each, aka mediocrity.
She was a pretty good D3 swimmer, but it's not like she was winning nationals...and there were more than 4 pros at that race. Splitting your training between 3 sports inevitably leads to lower performance in each, aka mediocrity.
This year's fastest high school runner (Lukas Verzbicas) by a fair margin, was trained as a triathlete. Again, definitely not mediocre.
07-26-11, 04:40 PM
#219
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Northeast Ohio
Posts: 3,215
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
You wanna try running against a 'mediocre' pro triathlete? You'll have to run a friggin' 30 minute 10k, or 15:00ish per 5k. That's sub-5 minutes per mile - and they do that at the END of a triathlon. Maybe they're not as fast as the fastest pro runner specialists, but there's nothing mediocre about that. The pros are friggin monster athletes that just happen to choose to do 3 sports rather than one.
This year's fastest high school runner (Lukas Verzbicas) by a fair margin, was trained as a triathlete. Again, definitely not mediocre.
This year's fastest high school runner (Lukas Verzbicas) by a fair margin, was trained as a triathlete. Again, definitely not mediocre.
ETA: grabbing the results from international pro, for the chicago tri, it looks like the fastest run split in the oly was just under 35 minutes, not 30 minutes...again, good d3 runner territory. Link: https://www.athlinks.com/time.aspx?ev...ourseid=196047
07-26-11, 04:44 PM
#221
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 933
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I met a pair of nice triathletes this weekend. They told me they "really" love biking. Even more so than running or swimming. That being said, the last time they rode was back in March and the furthest they've ridden is a whopping 40 miles!!!
07-26-11, 04:46 PM
#222
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Above ground, Walnut Creek, Ca
Posts: 6,681
Bikes: 8 ss bikes, 1 5-speed touring bike
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 86 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
4 Posts
when i want to compare performance in a multidiscipline sport like triathlon to performance in a single discipline within a multidiscipline sport i think of bruce jenner or bill toomey (sp?) and the olympic decathlon. jenner or toomey would not have qualified in ANY of the disciplines within the decathlon as a stand alone sport. not even close...generalists must compromise. the more diverse the events the more compromise.
07-26-11, 04:48 PM
#223
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Utah
Posts: 953
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Ah, I've never actually heard anyone say that the strongest/fastest person should win, hence my confusion. I'm not big on numbers racing though.
07-26-11, 05:00 PM
#224
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: UT
Posts: 398
Bikes: Ibex Xray
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I'm a mediocre cyclist, and all I do is ride my bike. Sometimes I do walk but I'm not very good at that either.
07-26-11, 05:03 PM
#225
Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Hudson Valley, NY
Posts: 32,996
Bikes: Merlin Cyrene '04; Bridgestone RB-1 '92
Mentioned: 325 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11966 Post(s)
Liked 6,632 Times
in
3,478 Posts
My point is this . . . and I'm not going to argue with every tom, dick & harry around here . . . some of you don't get it because you don't want to get it.
The point IS, if you're mediocre at ONE sport how could you possibly ridicule a guy because he's mediocre at THREE sports? For all we know, your one sport might be all you know how to do. And for all we know, HE might be able to wup YOU at your only sport. How hilarious would that be!?
But then again this is the 41, where there are apparently points earned for unsubstantiated hyperbole.
The point IS, if you're mediocre at ONE sport how could you possibly ridicule a guy because he's mediocre at THREE sports? For all we know, your one sport might be all you know how to do. And for all we know, HE might be able to wup YOU at your only sport. How hilarious would that be!?
But then again this is the 41, where there are apparently points earned for unsubstantiated hyperbole.
__________________
See, this is why we can't have nice things. - - smarkinson
Where else but the internet can a bunch of cyclists go and be the tough guy? - - jdon