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Old 11-08-11, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Accordion
Must be winter...the forums are full of dudes that joined in November 2011 and within their first 10 posts they manage to start three threads - each with a controversial or moronic subject.
I believe this is bike form correct?Who asked you to rate quality of my posts!based on your post I think you are a clear cut moron!
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Need advise on Aluminum Frame please

Again this being bike forum natural question! I was not asking cooking lesson!
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Again asking opinion about bike frame!

Again simpleton could you point out how frame questions equal " controversial"
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Originally Posted by Rubo
I assume you are referring me.
I believe this is bike form correct?Who asked you to rate quality of my posts!based on your post I think you are a clear cut moron!
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Need advise on Aluminum Frame please

Again this being bike forum natural question! I was not asking cooking lesson!
Opinions on BEONE road frame
Again asking opinion about bike frame!

So where are the moronic posts idiot!You tell me!
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Old 11-08-11, 12:36 PM
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I think you should get rid of your seat post (and seat) entirely. A bike should not need one to function and you will save yourself a few more grams.
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* (Check) Cut a good 15cm off that freeloader seat post. 50gr
* (Check) Have good and thorough dump before hitting road. 50 to 1500 gr, depending on who (or *what*) you are.
* (Check) Swap pedals with lighter ones. 50 gr. It has also the added benefit of lightening up your wallet.
* Shave all those ridiculous hair off your head. 10 to 500 gr, again depending on how hairy you are.
* Your newly tarted-up bald head will surely have better aero than that silly helmet. Get rid of it (no just the helmet). Better both in terms of grams and aero.
* And what are all those base layers and shorts and socks and gloves and shoes and all... They're for quiche eaters. HTFU and wear just an optional Speedo and have done with it. Lighter and sexier, though hopefully no one will notice it.
* And thinking of those lousy heavy tires... don't bare rims have less rolling resistance than that of tires? Both lighter and better rolling resistance. Don't worry about bumps and bends, as it's rather easy nowadays to find a jet runway. It has the added benefit of relatively lower traffic.

Please don't judge by singular savings, look at the big picture. :tongueincheek:
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Originally Posted by Rubo
I assume you are referring me.
I believe this is bike form correct?Who asked you to rate quality of my posts!based on your post I think you are a clear cut moron!
Threads I started
Frame Porn unpacking Scattante XRL
859 views
Showing new frame I bought (bike forum idiot)perhaps helping others for a good deal and 859 views.

Need advise on Aluminum Frame please

Again this being bike forum natural question! I was not asking cooking lesson!
Opinions on BEONE road frame
Again asking opinion about bike frame!

So where are the moronic posts idiot!You tell me!
These all seem like reasonable threads to me...it's possible your assumption wasn't correct and he was referring to someone else who joined in November and created some controversial or moronic posts.

edit: I don't look to my bike to shave weight...I only need to look just above my beltline to know where I could shave weight at no cost.
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Originally Posted by Rubo
I think you are missing the point.Once again when you trying to put your bike on diet its the total weight that counts.Weight saving usually comes from all areas not just single part.
What benefit? I'll let you figure that on your own.I am sure its been discussed every bike forum to death!
So what you're saying is you have no idea. Got it.
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Originally Posted by Accordion
Must be the 41...the forums are full of dudes that joined in November 2011 and within their first 10 posts they manage to start three threads - each with a controversial or moronic subject.
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I'm guessing about 50 gram? I think you could also save that with the bar tape, trim it down to a couple of turns behind the hoods.
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To play devil's advocate....what's the benefit of carrying around an extra long seat post that you don't need? Yeah, carrying around extra weight makes you stronger, but if we all wanted to be stronger by carrying extra weight we'd be riding 30# steel bikes with heavy wheels.
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I think the extra four inches makes the seat tube stronger and presents less leverage on the stress. Maybe that's not important, or maybe more important than the 50-80g?
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Originally Posted by wphamilton
I think the extra four inches makes the seat tube stronger and presents less leverage on the stress. Maybe that's not important, or maybe more important than the 50-80g?
Many modern tube sets have thinner walls once you get past the joints, so as suggested previously, anything past a couple inches below the top tube is unnecessary.
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I'll say what I always say - weight weenism is a hobby unto itself. It is only remotely related to cycling.
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Originally Posted by Rubo
I believe this is bike form correct?Who asked you to rate quality of my posts!based on your post I think you are a clear cut moron!
Threads I started
Frame Porn unpacking Scattante XRL
859 views
Showing new frame I bought (bike forum idiot)perhaps helping others for a good deal and 859 views.

Need advise on Aluminum Frame please

Again this being bike forum natural question! I was not asking cooking lesson!
Opinions on BEONE road frame
Again asking opinion about bike frame!

Again simpleton could you point out how frame questions equal " controversial"
Sorry bro, I didn't realize a thread you started had 859 views. That's a lot!
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Originally Posted by lhorn
To play devil's advocate....what's the benefit of carrying around an extra long seat post that you don't need? Yeah, carrying around extra weight makes you stronger, but if we all wanted to be stronger by carrying extra weight we'd be riding 30# steel bikes with heavy wheels.
good point.

I loved this thread
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...bike-on-a-diet
Putting-my-bike-on-a-diet

Lot of mods cost $$$$ and my suggestion is zero dollars spent.I am not a weight weenie but reasonable updates (if you got extra money)will make your bike climb better.
Anyone who says lighter bikes have no value are being disingenuous.
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Originally Posted by Rubo
I assume you are referring me.
I believe this is bike form correct?Who asked you to rate quality of my posts!based on your post I think you are a clear cut moron!
Threads I started
Frame Porn unpacking Scattante XRL
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Showing new frame I bought (bike forum idiot)perhaps helping others for a good deal and 859 views.

Need advise on Aluminum Frame please

Again this being bike forum natural question! I was not asking cooking lesson!
Opinions on BEONE road frame
Again asking opinion about bike frame!

So where are the moronic posts idiot!You tell me!
Damn, it sure is looking like I am a clear cut moron. I should take your advise. You do seem to ask natural bike forum questions and your questions should most definitely not be mistaken for cooking lesson questions.

I gotta stop that judging/book/cover thing I always keep doing.

By the way, there's a couple of gears I don't use a lot and I just removed three links from my chain saving half an ounce, or about one tablespoon of salt - but please do not confuse with cooking lesson!
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Originally Posted by Accordion
Damn, it sure is looking like I am a clear cut moron. I should take your advise. You do seem to ask natural bike forum questions and your questions should most definitely not be mistaken for cooking lesson questions.

I gotta stop that judging/book/cover thing I always keep doing.

By the way, there's a couple of gears I don't use a lot and I just removed three links from my chain saving half an ounce, or about one tablespoon of salt - but please do not confuse with cooking lesson!
I like pie! Send me some recipes
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There is a definite relationship to weight and climbing speed. It's a little less than 15 seconds saved when shaving off 200 grams for a 45 minute climb. For me, considering that my bike is 24 lb, if I were to go to a 15 lb bike, on a steep climb, I'd save somewhere around 4.5 minutes :O
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Yeah, but then you would be slower on the descent!
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Originally Posted by Accordion
Damn, it sure is looking like I am a clear cut moron. I should take your advise. You do seem to ask natural bike forum questions and your questions should most definitely not be mistaken for cooking lesson questions.

I gotta stop that judging/book/cover thing I always keep doing.

By the way, there's a couple of gears I don't use a lot and I just removed three links from my chain saving half an ounce, or about one tablespoon of salt - but please do not confuse with cooking lesson!
Accordion everything is fine.Enjoy your rides!
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Originally Posted by seypat
Yeah, but then you would be slower on the descent!
Not true. Basic physical laws state that all objects effected same by gravity once shape of the object taken out of equation (such as a feather effected by air).
Small metal ball will fall same speed as 10 ton boulder from a tower.
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Originally Posted by lhorn
To play devil's advocate....what's the benefit of carrying around an extra long seat post that you don't need? Yeah, carrying around extra weight makes you stronger, but if we all wanted to be stronger by carrying extra weight we'd be riding 30# steel bikes with heavy wheels.
You're right; the 30 grams you might save by cutting off half your seatpost is comparable to having a 30 lbs bike.
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Originally Posted by Rubo
Accordion everything is fine.Enjoy your rides!
Likewise, my friend.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
Many modern tube sets have thinner walls once you get past the joints, so as suggested previously, anything past a couple inches below the top tube is unnecessary.
I see what you're saying. But just for the sake of argument wouldn't the thinner walls make the strengthening interior tube more useful rather than less?

For more zero cost weight savings, bicycle helmets are 350-340 grams. I think there's potential savings there also. I know that my dollar store schwinn helmet has some extra straps and also some hard plastic pieces that aren't strictly necessary.
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Originally Posted by Rubo
I am not a weight weenie but reasonable updates (if you got extra money)will make your bike climb better.
Anyone who says lighter bikes have no value are being disingenuous.
I hope you only climb during high tide, because cutting parts off your bike to save a few grams, and then not taking advantage of a free gravitational assist is kind of silly.

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