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    I wouldn't buy either. The Giant is probably excellent but kind of dull, and the Dogma is cool looking but heavy for the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    apparently you did.
    Maybe I did. On the other hand maybe I had earned enough money to buy a top end bike.

    You decide

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    Good choice. Enjoy the beautiful bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ntjp View Post
    Maybe I did. On the other hand maybe I had earned enough money to buy a top end bike.

    You decide
    i already did. duh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrianinkc View Post
    Good choice. Enjoy the beautiful bike.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    i already did. duh.
    ok man
    Last edited by ntjp; 12-02-11 at 02:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorMantra View Post
    I wouldn't buy either. The Giant is probably excellent but kind of dull, and the Dogma is cool looking but heavy for the money.
    Agreed the dogma is heavy. I was surprised when I collected it from the shop as it didn't feel as light as I expected. Got it on the Park Tool scales when i got home and it was a fraction over 16 pounds. I expected 15 pounds or a bit less with this spec.

    However, on the plus side, and maybe this is something positive that comes from the weight, it feels very rigid indeed, and very solid and secure on downhills and cornering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTULaw View Post
    I live in Lubbock, Texas. If you want something other than a specialized, felt, or jamis, you buy without riding. And even if you want a Felt, you are stuck ususally riding a different model or the wrong size.
    I thought Velocity was carrying Cervelo these days.

    BTW, this thread desperately needs pics.

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    Awesome! Post a picture (or several) when you get it!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    Pinarello pics!!

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    Just wondering what happens when or if you loss power via- run battery out or crash and break a wire etc. ???
    Quote Originally Posted by ntjp View Post
    That is a problem. I am short. Bike shops never have my size, so I can't get a meaningful test ride.

    I fancy di2 ultegra as well, but there is just this gut feeling that if something goes wrong with the software / hardware in the di2 mechanism there is no way i can fix it at the side of the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChucklesKY View Post
    Pinarello pics!!
    Just revisited this thread. I'll post some pics tomorrow - if I remember. Bike much better now. Mechanic that built it is good (in general it's an excellent build) but for some reason he put the brakes so far forward on the bars that riding on the hoods was like riding on the drops. Fixed it myself, and now I love this machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    i already did. duh.
    close on 40,000 posts on one forum. do you do anything else?? or is your life all about having a go??

    sad...........

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    if somebody said to me "hey you can either have this pinarello dogma for free OR you can shoot yourself in the foot with this .38" i would shoot myself in the foot

    pinarellos are so awful why would you buy that bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkg View Post
    if somebody said to me "hey you can either have this pinarello dogma for free OR you can shoot yourself in the foot with this .38" i would shoot myself in the foot

    pinarellos are so awful why would you buy that bike
    Classy indeed.

    You wanna borrow my .38?

    Bob

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    **pics, or none of this happened...........
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    I do today what you don't , so I can do tomorrow what you can't

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    Quote Originally Posted by ntjp View Post
    close on 40,000 posts on one forum. do you do anything else?? or is your life all about having a go??

    sad...........
    took you two months to up with that reply?

    oh. snap.

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